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Current Lumber Prices (rough cut)

Started by Lawg Dawg, December 12, 2017, 12:56:37 PM

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Lawg Dawg

With the way the economy is improving right now and the unemployment rate going down,  is your personal lumber sales numbers improving?  Also, what are you getting for a 16'×6"×8" rough cut,  green,untreated Pine? Thanks DAWG
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uler3161

I've been cutting a lot on shares, so haven't personally seen the $$$ change. But I have been looking at lumber prices at HD and one of the local lumber yards. Prices went crazy the last few months. 2 and better framing lumber was somewhere around .55/bdft. Now it's almost a dollar.

Another one of interest I saw at HD was common pine 1x12s. It's probably been a year or two, but it used to be a little over $1/bdft. Now it's almost $3. And something as insignificant as 1x6 is now about $2. I think for those prices, it ought to be clear, not common.

I wish they would sell blued pine so I could see what they ask for it. Personally, I don't differentiate on price between blued and non-blued. We had some serious fires go through here a couple years ago and the burnt pine blued really quickly. The neighbor had his land logged and if I recall, the mill was only paying $10 or $20 per thousand for large blued pine. Seems like a lot of money could have been made there.
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Dan

WV Sawmiller

   My sales are always spotty at best anyway so can't tell much difference from start of year to now.

   I'd sell a rough pine (or poplar) 16'X6"X8" for $48 if a customer wanted one and me providing the wood.

   I do mostly mobile sawing and I'd saw his log for $19.20 if he brought it here.
Howard Green
WM LT35HDG25(2015) , 2011 4WD F150 Ford Lariat PU, Kawasaki 650 ATV, Stihl 440 Chainsaw, homemade logging arch (w/custom built rear log dolly), JD 750 w/4' wide Bushhog brand FEL

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irvi00

I've seen a huge increase in the last 4 months. Unfortunately I'm turning work away. Requests for almost anything. Barn siding, cribbing, trailer flooring, and a whole bunch of rough pine beams. Locally people are building exposed beam outdoor pavillions. Its kind of funny to watch. One gets built in a subdivision and the neighbors all want one. So yes, I see a noticeable change in the economy. And like WV Sawmiller, a 6x8x16 will be 48 bucks. (.75 bd/ft.) But I think soon I can raise that a little bit.

Lawg Dawg

Great replies,  Thanks guys. ..I'm supposed to take delivery on my LT40 G38 WIDE next week.  Had to wait 40 days on it.  I called Woodmizer last week and they said 90 big sawmills were ordered just last week!    :o
2018  LT 40 Wide 999cc, 2019 t595 Bobcat track loader,
John Deere 4000, 2016 F150, Husky 268, 394xp, Shindiawa 591, 2 Railroad jacks, and a comealong. Woodmaster Planer, and a Skilsaw, bunch of Phillips head screwdrivers, and a pair of pliers!

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Southside

Around $0.75 here as well, and yes sales have gone up, but logs and pulp - well that has been dead flat all year and prices have only gone down with mills not taking logs for periods of time, quotas, etc.  The retail prices increases have not come down to the supplier market on the log side.  Obviously there is too much capacity on the commodity side of things, not sure how that will all shake out. 
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drobertson

the price is really dependent on several factors, but it's safe to say a fair price range would be 45 bucks to 65 bucks per piece,  this gives you and them some wiggle room, no less than 45 bucks for sure, no way,
only have a few chain saws I'm not suppose to use, but will at times, one dog Dolly, pretty good dog, just not sure what for yet,  working on getting the gardening back in order, and kinda thinking on maybe a small bbq bizz,  thinking about it,

petefrom bearswamp

been at .65 for my Hemlock for the last 4 years.
Probably will go to .70 in the spring.
Hardwoods vary from $3 to $5 for FAS Maple Cherry and Ash
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57 acres of woodland

moodnacreek

1x12 and 1x10 air dried 1 year 1$ Bd. foot. [any soft wood]  nice dry oak:  $3.00, maple $2.00 ,walnut $4.00 + cherry $4.00  wane edge thick planks ,seasoned, all I can get [not sold by the board foot]  but around $5.00 to $10,00.

starmac

Here is the rough cut prices from our local mill, I do not think it has gone up for at least a couple of years though. It is all white spruce.


1x4 $0.36 $2.88 $3.60 $4.32 $5.40 $5.76   1.00lbs
1x6 $0.58 $4.64 $5.80 $6.96 $8.70 $9.28   1.50lbs
1x8 $0.78 $6.24 $7.80 $9.36 $11.70 $12.48   2.00lbs
1x10 $1.32 $10.56 $13.20 $15.84 $19.80 $21.12   2.50lbs
1x12 $1.65 $13.20 $16.50 $19.80 $24.75 $26.40   3.00lbs
         
Rough Lumber $/LF 8 FT 10 FT 12 FT 14 FT 16 FT 18 FT 20 FT Weight/Ft
2x4 $0.54 $4.32 $5.40 $6.48 $8.10 $8.64 $10.26 $10.80 2.00lbs
2x6 $0.84 $6.72 $8.40 $10.08 $12.60 $13.44 $15.96 $16.80 3.00lbs
2x8 $1.16 $9.28 $11.60 $13.92 $17.40 $18.56 $22.04 $23.20 4.00lbs
2x10 $1.76 $14.08 $17.60 $21.12 $26.40 $28.16 $33.44 $35.20 5.00lbs
2x12 $2.18 $17.44 $21.80 $26.16 $32.70 $34.88 $41.42 $43.60 6.00lbs
         
Rough Timbers $/LF 8 FT 10 FT 12 FT 14 FT 16 FT 18 FT 20 FT Weight/Ft
3x10 $3.60 $28.80 $36.00 $43.20 $54.00 $57.60 $68.40 $72.00 7.50lbs
3x12 $4.25 $34.00 $42.50 $51.00 $63.75 $68.00 $80.75 $85.00 9.00lbs
4x4 $1.42 $11.36 $14.20 $17.04 $21.30 $22.72 $26.98 $28.40 4.00lbs
4x6 $2.40 $19.20 $24.00 $28.80 $36.00 $38.40 $45.60 $48.00 6.00lbs
4x12 $4.95 $39.60 $49.50 $59.40 $74.25 $79.20 $94.05 $99.00 12.00lbs
6x6 $3.65 $29.20 $36.50 $43.80 $54.75 $58.40 $69.35 $73.00 9.00lbs
6x8 $5.70 $45.60 $57.00 $68.40 $85.50 $91.20 $108.30 $114.00 12.00lbs
6x12 $8.80 $70.40 $88.00 $105.60 $132.00 $140.80 $167.20 $176.00 18.00lbs
8x8 $7.50 $60.00 $75.00 $90.00 $112.50 $120.00 $142.50 $150.00 16.00lbs
10x10 $12.35 $98.80 $123.50 $148.20 $185.25 $197.60 $234.65 $247.00 25.00lbs
12x12 $17.80 $142.40 $178.00 $213.60 $267.00 $284.80 $338.20 $356.00 36.00lbs
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Kbeitz

I think your missing a line on the first one.
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WV Sawmiller

   Yeah. Maybe the one with the board length?
Howard Green
WM LT35HDG25(2015) , 2011 4WD F150 Ford Lariat PU, Kawasaki 650 ATV, Stihl 440 Chainsaw, homemade logging arch (w/custom built rear log dolly), JD 750 w/4' wide Bushhog brand FEL

Dad always said "You can shear a sheep a bunch of times but you can only skin him once

petefrom bearswamp

Anyone with the Amish near them will be undersold.
Checked one mill and they were selling for .55 per bd ft.
Those Alaska prices are outta sight for here.
Kubota 8540 tractor, FEL bucket and forks, Farmi winch
Kubota 900 RTV
Polaris 570 Sportsman ATV
3 Huskies 1 gas Echo 1 cordless Echo vintage Homelite super xl12
57 acres of woodland

starmac

Heck, they are outa sight for here too.
That is our only commercial mill, and they are not moving much wood.
They are the only buyers for timber in the area, and do not need any logs this year and have completely cut off most loggers.
Old LT40HD, old log truck, old MM forklift, and several huskies.

drobertson

at first glance that pricing looks right,, Star,, but around here, I never raised the price per bdft on dimensions, pine was priced, oak was priced as a species, not size, and it was all green, the bigger the quicker it went out the door, more money for the sawing,  I hated 1x4's, but folks used them for  nailing metal on roofs, just saying if folks buy it all the better, but chances are around here, they may sit a while at those prices, everywhere is different,,
only have a few chain saws I'm not suppose to use, but will at times, one dog Dolly, pretty good dog, just not sure what for yet,  working on getting the gardening back in order, and kinda thinking on maybe a small bbq bizz,  thinking about it,

moodnacreek

Supply and demand sets the price in free enterprise . Over the years I've noticed the more expensive mills stay longer and the cheap guys drop out.

starmac

drobertson, the bigger beams are their bread and butter, mostly used for dunnage in the oilfield. The main reason for higher prices the bigger it gets is logs are harder to get to make the bigger dunnage.

When the price of oil is up and the oilfield going strong, they sell a lot of the big dunnage, but the market has not been good for the last 3 years.
Old LT40HD, old log truck, old MM forklift, and several huskies.

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