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What kind of oak?
« on: December 05, 2017, 09:20:28 am »
Showing my inexperience, but can you tell what kind of oak this is?...I thought it was a type of red oak but now I'm not sure. 
It's from a fallen tree that I salvaged that didn't have any leaves.  It's laid a little too long and the butt log isn't much good.  The end of the log is anchor sealed so that may make it look a little off.



 

  

 

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Re: What kind of oak?
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2017, 10:18:53 am »

  The bottom pic is ash.  Steve
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Re: What kind of oak?
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2017, 10:20:27 am »
   I'd take a wild guess as chestnut oak but I could be wrong (I was once before when I thought I'd made a mistake :D).
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Re: What kind of oak?
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2017, 11:53:26 am »
looks like post oak to me

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Re: What kind of oak?
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2017, 12:41:31 pm »
Were all guessing without leaves, so my guess is hickory or ash.
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Re: What kind of oak?
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2017, 03:24:02 pm »
It was a twin tree that one half had fallen.  The one or two leaves I could find looked like oak leaves with pointed tips but hard to tell because they were so far gone.

Not a great pick, but here are a couple of boards from another log out of the same tree.

What got me wondering was there was almost no figure in the boards that were quarter sawed.

 

 

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Re: What kind of oak?
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2017, 03:29:00 pm »
looks like post oak to me

Don't think we have post oak in my area...at least I've never seen one with the "cross" type leaf.

On another note....I did run across a small Chinquapin oak in my pasture this fall.  Never seen one before.  I was going to collect a few acorns but waited too long and they were gone.
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Re: What kind of oak?
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2017, 03:35:07 pm »
 

 You wont get any oak boards out of that ash log.   Steve
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Re: What kind of oak?
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2017, 05:30:18 pm »
I agree with Steve, lumber and bark looks like ash
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Re: What kind of oak?
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2017, 05:38:06 pm »
The logs are hickory but the lumber is Ash. Are you sure the twin tree is of the same species?

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Re: What kind of oak?
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2017, 06:46:38 pm »
The logs are hickory but the lumber is Ash. Are you sure the twin tree is of the same species?

Thought so but it's entirely possible they were different.  Looks like the consensus is ash.  Maybe I'll have to harvest a known ash tree and see how it compares.

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Re: What kind of oak?
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2017, 07:27:17 pm »
never seen ash, plenty enough hickory, and all to say here from studies, is ash has similar bark to oak, as well as the grain,  it often appears in lumber form like hickory, my guess would be to listen to folks up your way, and the leaves are the tell tail problem solver,
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Re: What kind of oak?
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2017, 04:55:45 am »
 The log in the bottom pic is ash for sure, the 1st and 2nd look different maybe black walnut looking at the end with the dark center and white sapwood and bark looks kinda like walnut.  Steve
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Re: What kind of oak?
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2017, 09:44:36 am »
The log in the bottom pic is ash for sure, the 1st and 2nd look different maybe black walnut looking at the end with the dark center and white sapwood and bark looks kinda like walnut.  Steve

To be clear, all the logs and lumber in the pics are from the same tree.  Pictures don't always give a clear image. I just wasn't absolutely sure that the twin of this tree, which is still standing, was of the same species.  Sure looked like it was though.

Sawed the rest of the butt log yesterday but it was pretty poor.  I ended up cutting about half of it into 6 x 8 x 14 shop blocks and tossed the rest on the burn pile.

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Re: What kind of oak?
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2017, 10:51:20 am »
From were im setting your first two pics look like hickory and last pic is ash and lumber looks like ash. but like you say pics dont always tell the truth.
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Re: What kind of oak?
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2017, 08:27:18 pm »
I am with Ladylake.  It is ash.
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Re: What kind of oak?
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2017, 06:52:14 am »
Did you notice any circular holes in the bark? Looks just like a .22 hole? Any worm trails just under the bark? I am thinking that evidence of EAB would help confirm it being Ash.
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Re: What kind of oak?
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2017, 09:07:56 am »
Did you notice any circular holes in the bark? Looks just like a .22 hole? Any worm trails just under the bark? I am thinking that evidence of EAB would help confirm it being Ash.

It did have a lot of small holes in the bark and worm trails so it may be ash.  I don't' know if any bugs do that to downed oak or not.  Funny thing is the EAB hasn't officially infested this area yet, and I haven't seen dead ash trees....although counties not far away have it.  A lot of folks are treating their yard trees, but it's pricey, so I think the 2 or 3 I have are on their own.

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Re: What kind of oak?
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2017, 07:40:29 pm »
I tend to see black ants in oak typically.  As far as your ash goes, I lost a bunch this year, need to get it down, but the good thing is that some of it is already re-generating from the standing stick, so I am going to cut it above any new growth and paint the cuts with hope that it comes back. 
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