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« on: December 05, 2017, 06:50:19 am »
Good Morning. I use a Enercraft 30 full hydro and need to buy some blades. what is the best out there? I saw a lot different wood and want the most durable blade out there. I was raised on a circle saw and kind of new to the band style mill.

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Re: Blades
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2017, 07:08:23 am »
Welcome to the Forum.  I guess a couple of questions that would help to provide you with opinions to that questions are in order, and remember these are opinions. 

What species a you looking to saw?

How many HP is your mill?

What is your market for your lumber?  IE - personal use, selling to a pallet shop, etc?

Personally I have gone to the Wood Mizer Turbo 7 as my go to band.  I don't know what it is about that design but my mill cuts better with those, less wavy cuts, no issues at all with hard knots and I find they keep a sharper edge longer.  I do have some others but this is what I buy as replacements these days.  Just curious, what part of Virginia are you in?

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Re: Blades
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2017, 07:20:32 am »
Welcome to the Forestry Forum, Furrfactor!
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Re: Blades
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2017, 10:44:39 am »
Lake Gaston. Kinda center of Va but on southern Border to NC. We run a excavation company and used to sell all our logs. now days that's hard to impossible to do so I found a mill. 24 HP Silva Saw ( Ener craft)  Baker I guess bought out the orginal mill design. I repaired a lot of things but over all its a fun mill and very little labor. we sell some and use the rest for building rental cabins and other things. I'm also in re market for a edger if there may be one for sale.

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Re: Blades
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2017, 09:31:47 pm »
We are just up the road from you, basically on the edge of Ft Pickett. 
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Re: Blades
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2017, 12:10:07 am »
Im a couple of hours south of you. Weve been very pleased with the Kasco 7/40s on Tom (Baker 3638d).

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Re: Blades
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2017, 07:42:40 pm »
scsmith,

Are those more or less the same as the WM Turbo 7 band?  I think it's a 7-39, but I really don't know what the 39 means. 
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Re: Blades
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2017, 07:46:03 pm »
7 is angle of face of tooth from vertical.
39 is angle of back of tooth from horizontal.
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Re: Blades
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2017, 07:53:37 pm »
Thanks terrifictimber,

So if I understand you correctly a 7-40 would be just a tad bit thinner at the tooth than a 7-39?
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Re: Blades
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2017, 08:06:37 pm »
The back of the tooth would have a 40 degree angle from horizontal.  I guess if you measured the included angle between the back and face of the tooth it would be 1 degree less (more pointy) than a 7/39, if that's what you mean by thinner.
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Re: Blades
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2017, 08:10:11 pm »
The Kasco7/40 is like the WM turbo7, only better.

It has a slightly deeper gullet that is shaped a little different and 40deg back angle instead of 39.5deg. I believe that it cuts smoother and stays sharp much longer than the WM silvertip blades that they stick us 2" blade users with.
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Re: Blades
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2017, 08:31:47 pm »
 

 
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Re: Blades
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2017, 07:37:41 pm »
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How do the Kasco's compare with dust removal?  I am not all that impressed with the amount of dust left on the boards. 
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Re: Blades
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2017, 07:40:48 pm »
Southside, they're about the same which don't bother me, all I want is flat and fast.
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Re: Blades
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2017, 07:45:45 pm »
Thanks,

Green wood does not bother me so much, but the reclaimed will come off the mill and head into the edger then planer and eventually the moulder so I am trying to get it as clean as possible.
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