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Re: Cherry yard logs
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2017, 08:49:05 pm »
Then we'll somehow get the stump cut.  Should be fun to get slabbed. 

Wait, so are you chasing the stump to cut it? 

Been keeping my eye out for dozer piles and blowdowns, but is digging a stump worth it?
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Re: Cherry yard logs
« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2017, 05:17:28 am »
I refuse to cut anything down, other than a log in a forrest. Yard trees are too much risk and not my specialty, so I let others cut them and clean up and I just inspect/purchase the logs after they are on the ground.

Taking them down properly/safely is a unique discipline that's best left to experienced tree men. I'm happy to pay them for the logs, whether it's going into their pocket or the landowner--it's not my concern, other than trying to pay a FAIR price...that's the catch--a FAIR price. Offering $100 for a 600BF walnut log is not fair, yet I hear about it all the time. I desire to that guy who gets the call when the super-prize log comes around.

Had a local small saw dude tell me the other week that he will pay ZERO for logs--ever. "Every single log I have out there is free. I once paid $15 for a large walnut log from a neighbor, but that's it.". Well, his log deck looked about like a firewood pile. Other than that, he wrestles whatever he can onto his mill and just straight saws it 1-2-3. I guess it's another business model, just not one I'd care to pursue.




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Re: Cherry yard logs
« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2017, 06:39:50 am »
You get what you pay for. 

10 years ago, we had a guy come into the log yard and bought large sycamore for $800/Mbf.  Seems that if you have a market for the material and a means to produce it, you can pay a pretty good price for logs.  He had larger mill capacity than we did, but was in the specialty market.  We had no access to that market or a desire to develop it, so sycamore was more for sawing low grade material.  This guy also went to Europe to buy some logs and paid over $10k for a single log.  He had the markets to be able to pay for those logs.

I worked with a guy that had a zero pay plan for his material.  His logs were all urban logs.  The advantage to the tree guys was that they could unload their material and avoid the tipping fee.  He put no controls on what was brought in.  Hitting metal was more of an hourly occurrence, even after being scanned.  Most of the lumber quality was limited due to the fast growth of yard trees and the poor species.  But, there were some logs that were well worth paying for.  They wouldn't market the logs out with the erroneous thinking that they could be sold for bigger bucks down the line.  Cash flow was a major problem and they went belly up.

When you pay for logs, you have the ability to reject the junk.  It opens the door for better logs and better business relationships.  Better logs yield better lumber.  Better lumber opens up to better markets.
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Re: Cherry yard logs
« Reply #23 on: December 06, 2017, 07:01:07 am »
Then we'll somehow get the stump cut.  Should be fun to get slabbed. 

Wait, so are you chasing the stump to cut it? 

Been keeping my eye out for dozer piles and blowdowns, but is digging a stump worth it?

Oh, by stump I meant the area above the ground but below the multi-stems.  The stems are 20-24" diameter, the problem with the stump, which I'd slab if it does not split, is that it is actually huge.  More oblong so maybe we can get it that way.  We mostly cut with 20" bars, all those huge walnuts, 20" bars and some of those are 36-40 at the base.  Anyhow, back to yard cherry...posts by Ron and PaWalnut are spot on.

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Re: Cherry yard logs
« Reply #24 on: December 06, 2017, 07:28:32 pm »
For me it just depends on the log. I’d pay $1 per ft if it was great cherry.

Walnut now is a different animal. Sawmills are paying as high as $8 per ft and $1500 on the stump. Walnut is flat out crazy now.
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Re: Cherry yard logs
« Reply #25 on: Yesterday at 10:15:54 am »
I haven't seen the OP, Dudaks, back on this thread....
He hasn't said what his situation is, or what he is wanting to do with the logs.  Is he trying to make a business and selling the wood?  Or just for his own woodworking? 

I would consider myself a hobbyist because so far (3+ years)I only produce for myself.  There isn't any commercial logging near me to be able to buy logs so I get them where I can.  I buy a lot from a large firewood business who works with all the tree services.  He sets aside all the better logs for me.  I pay .35/BF for Cherry, plut $100 delivery fee for every load of logs.  Some of his logs are yard logs, and some are rural logs.  It hasn't been too bad really.  It averages out in my favor over all my logs.  I don't mind if I hit a nail or two in Walnut.  It's worth it.  Cherry can also be worth it, especially if it's curly.  I'd pay a bit more for larger logs like that.  You can slab them and sell for higher prices, especially if you've got a way to dry it properly.  I'm guessing the OP doesn't have a way to move the logs.  If he does, then
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Re: Cherry yard logs
« Reply #26 on: Yesterday at 12:11:52 pm »
Also they normally need a full load of Walnut to get a mill to buy the truck load.  If they are this level it may not be worth your time to haggle.  At $250 I would make an “any metal” guarantee that they replace with a new stick free of charge.

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