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Offline Southside logger

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Need help - thought I knew what this was
« on: November 24, 2017, 12:26:48 am »
 

  

  

  

  So, today this came across the mill and I thought I knew what it was, then I opened it up and had my doubts.  The more I got into the log, the more I wondered just what it was.  A new turbo did find a 16 penny nail starting about 4" under the bark,  >:( so I tossed a 10 back on that has been around plenty of times in case there were any more, thus the score marks on the lumber.  I appreciate the help. 
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Re: Need help - thought I knew what this was
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2017, 02:20:35 am »
The rays say oak to me. Black oak maybe going by the coloration. I'm often wrong though.  :D
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Re: Need help - thought I knew what this was
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2017, 07:53:20 am »
Definitely one of the red oaks.  Could be one of several species, and like Lee says, black oak is one of them, but a red oak for sure.
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Re: Need help - thought I knew what this was
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2017, 09:13:34 am »
That's what I knew it was before I opened it up, I was sawing oak for an order.  Couple things I can add - when sawing, and after, it has zero smell to it, no sour at all.  The metal stain around the nail maybe went 1/2" in any direction, and it feels way too light for oak - even spalted.  Not sure how to describe the lumber surface but up close it looks more like soft maple than oak does.  I will see if my potato (camera phone) will get a decent closeup of what I am trying to describe.   The ray flecks are short, like red oak. 

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Re: Need help - thought I knew what this was
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2017, 12:59:25 pm »
Spalted Big Tooth Aspen  ???

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Re: Need help - thought I knew what this was
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2017, 09:28:36 pm »
Ok - here are a couple more photos if this helps.  The leatherman is pointing at the cutoff nail and you can see how little stain there was. 

 

 

And this one is as close as I could get.  With the naked eye you can see some minor tear out - similar to birch I guess I would say.  Today I sawed some red oak that was only heart wood, been on the ground for over 5 years, and she still had the sour smell to her and no tear fuzz on the surface. 

 

 

I never did see this when it was standing as it was a yard tree.... oh, excuse me, an "Urban renewable fiber resource organism" that a buddy of mine with a tree service, I mean  - "Living Carbon Sequester Surgeon Service" deposited into my log..... ugg, "up-cycle" pile.   :D
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Re: Need help - thought I knew what this was
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2017, 09:43:13 pm »
Spalted Big Tooth Aspen  ???

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I just looked Big Tooth Aspen up as we don't see it around here that I know of and yea - wood database pretty well describes what I am looking at.  Now to market it in a way that covers the cost of that turbo.   8)
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Re: Need help - thought I knew what this was
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2017, 11:21:16 pm »
Was it standing dead? The way that sapwood looks, it's been dead for a while.

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Re: Need help - thought I knew what this was
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2017, 11:58:58 pm »
My buddy has a yard tree pile he drops them onto for me and I use them for unique orders, spalted wood, that sort of stuff.  This one was probably on that pile for 10 months to a year based on it's location is my guess, I don't know what its status was when it was felled. 
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