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WLC

Quote from: starmac on November 23, 2017, 05:55:59 PM
WLC, do you kiln dry any of your birch? I stopped at Poppets but all I really got from the lady I talked to is they do dry for other folks, not too much as far as pricing goes. I know the sawmill here does have them dry some.

Haven't kiln dried any yet.  I talked to Popperts too and got the feeling they didn't want to fool with "drying for the public".  I guess if it was a full kiln load or more they may change their tune.  I've been kicking around the idea of building a kiln, but solar might get me one load a year and a DH kiln unit is more $$ than I want to spend for my own use.  May try rigging up a DH kiln off plans I found somewhere online using a electric heater and a dehumidifier or may just go with a solar kiln and hope it works.  At least that way if it didn't work I'd have a small storage shed out of the deal or another greenhouse....  Haven't made up my mind just yet.
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Kbeitz

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starmac

Superior hardwoods up here will do some custom drying, but I need to talk to someone in management. I talked to the gal running their booth at the outdoors show, and iirc she quoted me 1.75 a ft, no matter the quantity.

I inquired about a solar kiln, and was told it just wouldn't work this far north.
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nativewolf

Quote from: Kbeitz on November 23, 2017, 06:59:36 PM
This is the valley I'm working in...



 

PA has a lot of wonderful valleys and that's one of them
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WDH

Here in my area, that much harvested wood left on a logging site would be unacceptable.  That logger must live high on the hog (old saying), or markets must be very very poor. 
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nativewolf

Yes that is a crazy amount of wood on the deck.  Especially the walnut because ...it is so easy to sell.  Maybe they had to bug out for another job or something?

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Resonator

I know when we had some cherry harvested a of couple years ago, the buyer only wanted quality veneer grade. He did not want any heart shake or defects. I was picking up as much left over as a I could, along with the burls that had been cut out. Buyer didn't want them either, said they wood just gum up the lathe machinery :)
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starmac

At least in this area, loggers takes everything that the mill will buy and not grade down the load. I assume that would be the standard practice.  it is a shame what is left for firewood or even more likely to rot.
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Kbeitz

I️ only showed you a small amount of what was left behind. There is many large piles.
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starmac

The mill here, the only buyer or game in the area hires contract cutters, and they want it cut at 53 foot with a 6 in top, if the next log is 33 foot and still has a 6 in top, it gets loaded, but they don't want many. They will take it if it is 24 and 6" top but at 18% less money, so it is astonishing the decks many of which are nice and straight straight out of a dangle head processor is left in the woods. Most of it is logistically too far out for firewooders, so most rots after we pull out.
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Quebecnewf

Quote from: starmac on November 23, 2017, 07:10:55 PM
Superior hardwoods up here will do some custom drying, but I need to talk to someone in management. I talked to the gal running their booth at the outdoors show, and iirc she quoted me 1.75 a ft, no matter the quantity.

I inquired about a solar kiln, and was told it just wouldn't work this far north.

They will work . I am a LOT further north than you and I can dry a load of birch a summer in mine .

Quebecnewf

WLC

Quote from: starmac on November 23, 2017, 09:55:20 PM
The mill here, the only buyer or game in the area hires contract cutters, and they want it cut at 53 foot with a 6 in top, if the next log is 33 foot and still has a 6 in top, it gets loaded, but they don't want many. They will take it if it is 24 and 6" top but at 18% less money, so it is astonishing the decks many of which are nice and straight straight out of a dangle head processor is left in the woods. Most of it is logistically too far out for firewooders, so most rots after we pull out.

Cant yall take stuff to a pellet mill up there, or has it closed down?
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Southside

Quote from: Quebecnewf on November 24, 2017, 04:35:11 AM
Quote from: starmac on November 23, 2017, 07:10:55 PM
Superior hardwoods up here will do some custom drying, but I need to talk to someone in management. I talked to the gal running their booth at the outdoors show, and iirc she quoted me 1.75 a ft, no matter the quantity.

I inquired about a solar kiln, and was told it just wouldn't work this far north.

They will work . I am a LOT further north than you and I can dry a load of birch a summer in mine .

Quebecnewf


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Quote from: Kbeitz on November 23, 2017, 09:43:59 PM
I️ only showed you a small amount of what was left behind. There is many large piles.
yep, get the best and easiest first, then the rest later
"let the machines do the work"

Kbeitz

Two loads of cherry yesterday. Going back for some nice walnut today
but I'm going to have to work for this load. It's down over a bank.
Yep I got all the easy stuff first. I still got some easy red oak to get
but I'll save that for last.
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firefighter ontheside

As I drove cross country to Branson MO yesterday, I drove thru a logged area and saw large piles of logs left.  It was only about 15 min from my house.  Wonder if I could contact somebody about taking some of the logs.
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Kbeitz

Quote from: firefighterontheside on November 25, 2017, 08:43:03 AM
As I drove cross country to Branson MO yesterday, I drove thru a logged area and saw large piles of logs left.  It was only about 15 min from my house.  Wonder if I could contact somebody about taking some of the logs.

I would sure check it out... Whats to loose but you'r time ?
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Kbeitz

My piles is getting bigger... First picture is 90% walnut and 10% cherry
Second picture is just one walnut. Third and forth oak.



 



 



 



 
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Peter Drouin

I can see why they're free. All crooked.
Maybe you can do something with them. :D
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starmac

WLC, the pellet mill is open, but just barely. Chad didn't buy any wood at all last year, just barely any the year before.

The guy I am hauling to in Wasilla actually leased one of their log trucks and probably bought 20 or more loads from him, plus he sold a lot to a firewood co up here.
I ran into him at a gun show this last summer and he said he planned to start buying some this winter again, problem is he didn't know what price he could pay. When he quit buying wood it was cheaper to leave it in the woods anyway.
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Kbeitz

Quote from: Peter Drouin on November 25, 2017, 07:09:24 PM
I can see why they're free. All crooked.
Maybe you can do something with them. :D

Most of the walnut I use is short paces for lathe work and such.
I bet I can still get some 12" X 8' X 2" out of some. I'm happy.
I'll make a few more trips today. The easy stuff is done. everything
now is over the steep banks.
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caveman

Those log piles look like potential bench slabs and coffee tables to me.  A lot of folks will like curved benches with live edges.
Caveman

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X2.

   I make mortise & tenon style primitive benches from 2" live edge slabs and always say the uglier the log the prettier the bench it will make.

   Plus you may be able to cut some short pieces into 3-4 inch thick piece for bowl turners and such.
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Kbeitz

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starmac

That last load looks like fairly strait stuff, looking better anyway.
How long is your trailer?
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