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Can anyone identify this machine?
« on: November 20, 2017, 01:25:38 am »
Hello everyone, new to the forum and looking at learning a few things while I'm here. I'm interested in a machine but the owner cannot give me any real info on it. I have not gone to look at it yet and I cant identify it from the picture. What he can tell me is is has a 172 ford industrial engine and a 4 speed fwd and 4 reverse trans. Hopefully someone has come across something like this to give me a starting point for my own research. Thanks in advance.

 

 

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Re: Can anyone identify this machine?
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2017, 04:56:56 am »
Looks to me like it started out life as a C4 Tree Farmer. Heavily modified by the looks of it. It may also been a C3 if it has the 172 Ford in it. 

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Re: Can anyone identify this machine?
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2017, 05:43:01 am »
I got the grapple in the front. But what is the front part for. Almost looks like a hopper?
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Re: Can anyone identify this machine?
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2017, 08:05:06 am »
Looks like a pain to get in to and out of.
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Re: Can anyone identify this machine?
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2017, 08:55:22 am »
Im gonna say it was a skidder until the cab and dash were spun and the loader was built.  The curl back linkages look to be C channel.  The cab mounts are definitely shop built... Loader is pretty funky,  maybe off an old skid steer. 

The panels on top are wierd too.  I suspect the might actually be rail or debris shields for the cylinders and hoses.  Theyre probably not even attached.. Note the color difference.  I think theyre a set of basement bulkhead doors plopped ontop.

I dunno but i want it.  Flawless bucket setup.

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Re: Can anyone identify this machine?
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2017, 08:56:11 am »
Ask the owner if it has 1 forward speed and 3 reverse

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Re: Can anyone identify this machine?
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2017, 01:54:52 pm »
I agree it sure looked odd from the pictures I saw. Also raised some red flags when the owner didn't know what he had. Looks to be handy if the loader works properly. I'm going to look at it on the weekend and will get back with some more information and pictures on how this treefarmer got modified. That being said, is there any weak spots for failure on these machines to look for?

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Re: Can anyone identify this machine?
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2017, 06:58:46 pm »
Looks to me like it started out life as a C4 Tree Farmer. Heavily modified by the looks of it. It may also been a C3 if it has the 172 Ford in it.

X2     Sawmill outfit perhaps ?  Will be interesting to know anyhow.
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Re: Can anyone identify this machine?
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2017, 01:27:45 am »
I like it, looks easy to work on, would be great around a mill or for loading logs. if it runs and operates go for it.

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Re: Can anyone identify this machine?
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2017, 02:42:08 am »
Garrett Skidder made all kinds of variations of the skidder/loader/shear/grapple/ect.

I swear Ive seen them in my old logging conference books in article/ads from the 60s.

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Re: Can anyone identify this machine?
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2017, 06:28:32 am »
Clueless about the machine but if it works it works.

One of my personal bugbears... after 80 or more years of mechanical logging why haven't manufacturers figured that maybe a loader type front might be just a little bit more versatile than a decking blade on a woods machine. I have fantasies about a 527 with a 4in1 bucket on the front.
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Re: Can anyone identify this machine?
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2017, 06:46:13 am »
Exactly!

That is why in Europe every newer skidder has a crane mounted in the back of it. surely ten times more versatile than a "normal style" skidder with just the winch and front blade.

i liked this video, excellent operator, he knows were the strong points of his machine are

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Re: Can anyone identify this machine?
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2017, 06:51:16 am »
There is always the Pettibone Mountain Logger. I saw one on NH CL with a bucket that slid on the forks.

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Re: Can anyone identify this machine?
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2017, 08:03:14 am »
Dang that was a nice stand of timber. 

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Re: Can anyone identify this machine?
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2017, 07:55:37 pm »
try that in our timber and you better have a buddy handy to help get your wheels on the ground again!!  ;D
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Re: Can anyone identify this machine?
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2017, 08:14:30 pm »
I don't see what is so great about it  2 trips digging and pawing  cable would have been one trip even if you had to winch it out and less fuel and less time   jmop  ;D

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Re: Can anyone identify this machine?
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2017, 08:27:02 pm »
People still pull cable?  Neat!

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Re: Can anyone identify this machine?
« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2017, 08:44:29 pm »
I don't see what is so great about it  2 trips digging and pawing  cable would have been one trip even if you had to winch it out and less fuel and less time   jmop  ;D

But that would have required the fat lunch box operator to actually get out of the machine and WORK.  :D

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Re: Can anyone identify this machine?
« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2017, 12:20:54 am »
I think those Euro machines would be awesome in a high quality hardwood thin.
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Re: Can anyone identify this machine?
« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2017, 02:01:29 am »
Dang that was a nice stand of timber.

Soooooooo... educate me on why, because I know nothing about deciduous forest or pine for that matter, much less northern hemisphere ones.

Though I got to say compared with where I'm currently working it looked nice in there, like you could walk between the trees and stuff.
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