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« on: November 11, 2017, 07:36:17 pm »
The pin that holds my head lift in lock on my up/down head winch slipped on the # 40 roller chain and let the hand crank handle free wheel it went wild sucked my hand in and broke my hand and hurt my wrist and arm pretty bad :(
I'm going to replace the worn chain and want to remove the handle and put a 90 to 1 tarp motor on and remove the handle before anyone else gets hurt
I'm not a fab guy
I will post pics of the setup tomorrow and I'm open to suggestion on how to do this
I will post pics of my hand to
Anyone with a Thomas mill please be careful of this !!!
Thanks Bruno
I hope my luck changes soon !
It's been a tough year
I guess you make your own luck :(
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Re: Need some help
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2017, 07:44:25 pm »
I added the same to my mill and I would do it for you if we were nearby. I love to do such mods".
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2017, 07:55:46 pm »
So sorry to hear you got hurt!  Am no fab guy either but am sure some guys here will help with suggestions.  Let's all stay safe.  All the best, Rob.
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2017, 08:42:52 pm »
Ayh!  sorry u got hurt, take care of that arm,    intetested in seeing the mod. 

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Re: Need some help
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2017, 08:48:42 pm »
Why not call up Thomas, tell them what happened and see if theyd be willing to work with you?


Sorry to hear you got hurt, always sucks hope you heal uo quick at least its nice time to sit in front of the wood stove
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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2017, 08:49:47 pm »
That is too bad.  :(  I have the old style,but I will still look at it.
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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2017, 09:01:39 pm »
Thanks Guys
4x4 no rest for me
Was out there first thing this morning puting things back together
The head dropped hard did a full alinement of the mill back cutting great but don't trust the worn chain off to Runnings in the am for some new # 40 roller chain to get back at it have a lot of orders to get at .
I will run it with the handle but that thing will go if not the mill will head off
I like my mill
I had a plan in place to add a swing mill to my operation and keep my bandmill
No one in my area has a swing mill
I get lots of large pine logs 40" plus
I also like the idea of circle saw marks on the wood that looks great on a floor
Was also going to get a Thomas Edger keeping spending my money some what local like I ask my customer to do
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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2017, 09:11:50 pm »
I have had a great year with the mill business and I don't want to let up :)
This place has helped me more than most would know
I'm very great full for that :)
I got to quit punching my self in the face with my health issues it's starting to get old :)
I like punching the $20's into my pocket with the mill much better :)
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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2017, 10:02:42 pm »
Stay Strong my friend, Stay Strong.   :)
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« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2017, 10:39:14 pm »
When I started building my mill I put a boat winch on it.
Then I seen that you could buy a worm winch new off E-bay
for $43.00. One of the best mods that I have done to my mill.
Later I put a wheelchair motor on it. They wont turn when you
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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2017, 11:03:24 pm »
Sorry to hear of the injury.  We will help if we can.
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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2017, 10:41:38 am »
I'd talk to Thomas Monday morn. Approach it right, they will want to know and you'll get the first new model.

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« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2017, 03:37:13 pm »
The hand and wrist/forearm right after it happened

  

 
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« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2017, 03:49:41 pm »
I say Ouch, you say DanG!!!    :-X
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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2017, 04:19:37 pm »
I know how it feels... This spring my son jumped on my winch cable
as I was reaching for the handle. I though it took my arm off.
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« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2017, 05:30:07 pm »
If it wern't for bad luck...  :(     :'(   

I hope you get better and a broken hand is no fun, from a retired X-Ray Man.

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« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2017, 05:58:33 pm »
What are you doing over there?? Is that your bad arm or the good one??
I know you're a hard working bull of a man, but, you got to slow down just a little.
I don't mean to give ya hell, but I hate to see you this way. 
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« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2017, 06:08:22 pm »
Peter
I worked today making custom cuts on some slabs I sold.
I'm also building the mill yard bigger and scaled some logs
My fingers are black and blue right to the tips
It's some sore good thing it's cold out don't hurt till I go inside :)
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« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2017, 06:02:49 am »
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I know. It's how we are in the North East
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« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2017, 07:56:15 am »
Bruno, please show us a picture of the offending part so we can reengineer it to be safer and even failsafe. It doesn't seem right that roller chain would wear out at the speed its turned to support the head. Could it be an adjustment.?? Frank C.
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« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2017, 08:05:00 am »
Frank
I have adjusted it  many times
I had this problem since it was new
At 9" through 10" on the scale
I will get pics on today
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« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2017, 08:13:04 am »
It does seem there is significant room for improvement, to say the least, especially if you have had to fiddle with it from the beginning.  Anytime there is a mechanical failure like that, especially one that causes a significant injury, its time to take a think and do some learning.  I would think the manufacturer would be very interested to hear about this and do some "learning". 

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« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2017, 10:52:52 am »
Please under stand I'm not slamming Thomas Bandsaw Mills
I like this mill the frame for a manual mill is the best in the business in my opinion.
I called Thomas today and the owner is out for a bit and i know he will can me.
I even started an owners group on FB this summer :)
I can't afford to get hurt or anyone else for that matter again this year :(
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« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2017, 10:56:37 am »
The only thing I have ever been good at is working :)
I'm not the smartest or good at sports
Don't hunt or fish
Just want to get back running the mill safely :)
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« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2017, 12:06:02 pm »
I'm liking KBietz's worm drive unit with a sprocket where the cable drum is for the chain. That unit is sort of self locking. In fact, you could put some form of adjustable friction to the right side of that drum, enough to keep it from drifting at all but still easy to adjust. It could also have miter gears instead of sprockets and on the ends of a rod that runs where the chain does?

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« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2017, 01:34:50 pm »
You could make a drop latch like old elevators have. The end of the cable is
connected to this latch. If the cable breaks the latch engages a rack system
stopping the box car from falling.

 

 
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« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2017, 07:14:15 pm »
Great new Thomas Bandmills now has a power up/down unit for my mill.
Heading to Maine this week to pick one up:)
The owner called me up and said it's very easy to hook it up.
Like I said I like my mill
I kind of have a chip on my shoulder about it because when I got it all my friends and family said you will never make a living with that.
Guess what I'm proving them all wrong:)
Just like when I started my carpentry business in 1984 they said he's to fat he won't last he's to this he's to that.
I ended up building comercial jobs with over 1.5 million budgets.
I'm going to have a milling business  :)
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« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2017, 07:34:44 pm »
Just stay  out  of the Doctors Office
We have a lot of good boys and girls in harms way
lets all support them and their familys.

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« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2017, 07:49:49 pm »
That's the NH way, Never give up, Just think it out, and find the way.
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« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2017, 08:52:36 pm »
I agree with Peter.  You da man Jim.   8)
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« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2017, 09:28:56 pm »
Gettem Bruno prove em wrong, I had a guy tell me when I got my sawmill that it was dumb and Iíd never make anything happen and that did nothing but fuel my fire.
Boy, back in my day..

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« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2017, 09:31:21 pm »
Gettem Bruno prove em wrong, I had a guy tell me when I got my sawmill that it was dumb and Iíd never make anything happen and that did nothing but fuel my fire.




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« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2017, 09:40:18 pm »
When I bought my mill, it was sight unseen, infact it was a few months until spring breakup before I could pick it up, so it was a while before I laid eyes on it.
I naturally slipped my mind to tell my wife that we were the proud owners of a LT40, until I drug it home.
She didn't say a whole lot, but you could tell that she didn't think it was the brightest move I have ever made. lol
I sawed up a couple of old pieces of dunnage I had laying around, then had to go find a couple of logs, and by the time I had them sawed she had changed her mind. lol
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« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2017, 09:46:08 pm »
starmac, That's how it goes, Then she will see $$$ you will make, And when you want a bigger mill she will say OK honey. :D :D :D ;)
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« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2017, 10:15:25 pm »
Like myself I'm sure a number of you have also been secretly looked over for the space program, and then you bought the mill and they realize that it would be a waste of just too much mental horsepower to go from that to driving a bus in space. So here we are, rocket scientists

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Ah, but Peter, I do not even saw for hire or sell lumber. lol
She just thought it was a neat and fun hobby that I was going to enjoy, and probably figured she could get a board or 2 now and then.
Truth be told she probably figured that it was cheaper than my gun and reloading hobby. lol
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Like myself I'm sure a number of you have also been secretly looked over for the space program, and then you bought the mill and they realize that it would be a waste of just too much mental horsepower to go from that to driving a bus in space. So here we are, rocket scientists



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« Reply #37 on: November 14, 2017, 07:06:48 am »
My father in law figured I was crazy to buy a mill and build a log cabin, said it would have been quicker to stick frame it, and I says yup maybe so but then you have only a stick framed building like every Úne else, this is a work of art that will last.
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« Reply #38 on: November 14, 2017, 01:48:42 pm »
My father in law figured I was crazy to buy a mill and build a log cabin, said it would have been quicker to stick frame it, and I says yup maybe so but then you have only a stick framed building like every Úne else, this is a work of art that will last.

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« Reply #39 on: Yesterday at 02:40:55 pm »
Today i installed the power up/down on my mill no more handle 8)
I went to Thomas Bandsaw Mills yesterday to pick it up.
Jon the owner treated me right on this I left with the up/down kit,two new log clamps,some slab rack brackets,a new band he worked with Lenox to design it has a profile like a turbo 7 and a new hat.
Got a tour of the shop and a new mill that will cut 48 inches wide all new design it looks great they are stepping it up :) :)
I look forward for a lot of new things to come in the future 

  

  

 
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I think you'r going to like that...
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Looks good Bruno

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« Reply #42 on: Yesterday at 03:50:28 pm »
Looks like a great upgrade. You're going to need a helper to keep up with that mill now.  :)
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« Reply #43 on: Yesterday at 04:04:51 pm »
Ah, but Peter, I do not even saw for hire or sell lumber. lol
She just thought it was a neat and fun hobby that I was going to enjoy, and probably figured she could get a board or 2 now and then.
Truth be told she probably figured that it was cheaper than my gun and reloading hobby. lol

When you are running the mill she knows where you are and peace of mind is priceless.
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« Reply #44 on: Yesterday at 04:48:09 pm »
I think I saw that at the Bangor show. Knowing them,it is simple.  ;D
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« Reply #45 on: Yesterday at 05:10:36 pm »
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I think this one is a whole new design
Other than the noflex trac the head is all new
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« Reply #46 on: Yesterday at 05:20:17 pm »
I still think I saw it. Maybe proto type? I also saw the same motor as an auto feed too. All the auto feed is,is a pneumatic tire,maybe 8 inch,that pivots against the bed rail.
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« Reply #47 on: Yesterday at 06:12:40 pm »
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« Reply #48 on: Yesterday at 10:16:42 pm »
When I bought my mill, it was sight unseen, infact it was a few months until spring breakup before I could pick it up, so it was a while before I laid eyes on it.
I naturally slipped my mind to tell my wife that we were the proud owners of a LT40, until I drug it home.
She didn't say a whole lot, but you could tell that she didn't think it was the brightest move I have ever made. lol
I sawed up a couple of old pieces of dunnage I had laying around, then had to go find a couple of logs, and by the time I had them sawed she had changed her mind. lol
Thatís pretty funny! My wife has been by my side on the sawmill purchases. When I bought the lt30, she said ďthis wonít be the last mill you buyĒI thought she was crazy. 2 years later, she basically talked me into buying a new mill.
Sure sorry to see the broken hand, I hope it heels fast. I smashed my fingers this summer and it put me out of business for a month. I couldnít keep sawing since my day job had me back to work on light duty.
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