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Re: Tractor Horsepower
« Reply #40 on: November 10, 2017, 07:51:38 pm »
Man id love to have that 4ws loader.  Never seen one. 

Youll note right away the single piston uni-post boom and small bucket.  ..a designed limitation to protect the steer knuckles IMHO.

Its sad how many michigan 125A loaders ive put a torch to.  Only thing i could ever sell off them was the tires.  In western mass i couldnt get $2500 for one if it had a single issue. 

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Re: Tractor Horsepower
« Reply #41 on: November 10, 2017, 09:39:31 pm »
I'm going to pitch going with two machines again. 

I bought a Kubota L2850 that I wanted as a "do everything" machine.  However, it was too big to mow the lawn and till the garden (plus gear transmission) and two small t really brush hog or do a lot in the woods.  We looked into upgrading to a similar size with hydrostat and 4x4.  Big $$ for me.  I stumbled on a B1550 for cheap that I intended to resell, but was impressed how it handled a 5' mower and 4' tiller well enough.  Sold the L2850 and bought an IH 706 with loader (70ish HP).  All told we are in them for FAR less than the "do everything" machine I thought I wanted.

Same thing on vehicles.  I wanted the crew cab, dually, 4x4 so I can take the family and pull a trailer.  Ended up with a 3/4 ton Suburban and a single cab F350 to pull goosenecks (both 4x4) for FAR less than the "do all" truck.  The math won't work on a new one, but worked well for the used equipment I look for.

Maybe sell your dad your tractor and get yourself something a bit older and bigger.  Give him a good deal so you could still borrow the little one when needed.   ;)
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Re: Tractor Horsepower
« Reply #42 on: November 10, 2017, 09:51:33 pm »
The M series Kubotas are easy to operate, comfortable and pretty nimble in the woods and around the mill.  I wish mine would lift more but that would be the case with anything-kind of like speed and horsepower on a vehicle-a little more is always desirable.   

  

 

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Re: Tractor Horsepower
« Reply #43 on: November 10, 2017, 10:28:35 pm »
From my experience many of the skip loaders on the market like that ford 545d come with a 3pt and pto and for the size and money you will be hard pressed to find a stronger loader.

I've contemplated one for a loader machine that could also be used for farm work, my only downfall is that they are low slung and don't have a lot of underbodying clearance for hay work.

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« Reply #44 on: November 10, 2017, 10:32:25 pm »
I have a small Ford 4wd tractor with FEL.  Wouldn't lift what I would like it to so I went shopping.  Tried both green and orange tractors in the 50 hp range.  Yes they might lift a good size log but it stressed both.  I didn't want to spend more nor did I want a 100 hp tractor to maintain.  Did that when I farmed. 

I found a Navigator truck mounted style forklift in excellent condition.  Lifts 6,000 pounds up to 12' high with ease.  It goes off road with better traction than a 2wd pickup but less than a 4wd truck.  Doesn't tear up the ground like a skidsteer.  It was perfect for me.  They were selling in the $5,000 to $8,000 range when I bought my lift....think I paid close to the upper end.  Kept the Ford tractor which I like.
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Re: Tractor Horsepower
« Reply #45 on: November 11, 2017, 12:01:44 am »
TKehl, Iím not against the two machine theory.  In fact I was looking at skip loaders online today and they are surprising cheap for what you get.  If we got the skip loader and kept the L245,I wouldnít need PTO and maybe not even 4wd.
I agree about the two vehicle theory too.  I should have done that years ago when I got my first diesel truck.  I could have gotten a higher miles truck and a separate around town vehicle for less then I spent on one truck.
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Re: Tractor Horsepower
« Reply #46 on: November 11, 2017, 01:17:01 am »
. . .  many of the skip loaders on the market like that ford 545d come with a 3pt and pto and for the size and money you will be hard pressed to find a stronger loader. . . .  they are low slung and don't have a lot of underbodying clearance for hay work.

chevytahoe knows his machines!
The 545D aka 'skip loader' does have a PTO and 3pt. hitch.
I find it's great with a 6 foot Woods mower behind it.
... and like yellowhammer said, the crossover designed machines work well for exactly what you've said you need.

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Re: Tractor Horsepower
« Reply #47 on: November 11, 2017, 07:56:46 am »
I have a JD 2240 (55hp) with a loader.  Was pretty disappointed with the lift capacity on it, 2500lbs only with a rear counterweight and that is really pushing it.  I lucked out at an auction and purchased an old Clark forklift for 25 dollars.  I took the mast off of that and fabricated a way to use it with the 3 point on the tractor, works great.  If I find another older tractor cheap I will eventually hard mount the mast to the front of that tractor.  As far as skip loaders go I have a MF50 that has a backhoe on it, the lift capacity on it is around 5000pds.  It has a 540 pto but no 3point, the hoe can be removed pretty quick and simple.

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Re: Tractor Horsepower
« Reply #48 on: November 11, 2017, 08:49:16 am »
I really wish I had kept my smaller machine. Tkehl is 100% right. My L2800 is to big for common yard use but to small for everything else.

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« Reply #49 on: November 11, 2017, 10:19:56 am »

. . .  I want to stay with a farm type tractor so I can keep using my 3 point devices and I dont want it so big that I cant drive around in the woods between trees.  I am not gonna have an all out logging business, but I want to be able lift logs onto the mill and unload my trailer or a trailer of someone who brings me logs to saw.  I'm thinking of a budget of about 15,000.
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That price and those details fit my machine perfectly.

It's a Ford 545D.
65 hp. Loader lifting capacity 5000 lbs.
Starts well in the cold and has been a good machine.

We have got a FORD 445D on the farm.  Pretty sure this is the 3rd one, we've wore out two!  It gets used EVERY DAY.  It has 3pt hitch, and a 540 pto.  Used to clean manure out of the barns twice a day, and for feeding up twice a day (not at the same time, that would be gross ;D)  We have a rubber 1/2 tire on the back for scraping the manure out of the barn.  The 445D is rugged and pretty simple.  We go through front wheel bearings, and forward reverse switches, but also put wayyyy more hours on them than your average joe.  They are also easy to get on and off, since they are an "industrial" type machine.


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I'm currently rebuilding a mid 80's Ford 545 industrial, equipped with Pto and three-point hitch. That configuration may not be as rare as you think.

Eric,  we still have a "parts" 445D.  A bunch of the parts are, ahhh, used up, but some may work.  Is your 545 a 2wd or 4wd?  Pretty sure our machine is a mid to late 90's

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Re: Tractor Horsepower
« Reply #50 on: November 11, 2017, 02:16:39 pm »
I have not found any 545ís locally, but they do seem to come at a good price where I have seen them around the country.  Iíll keep looking.  Iíll also keep my mind open to having two machines.  Thanks for the advice that keeps coming.
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Re: Tractor Horsepower
« Reply #51 on: November 11, 2017, 06:49:47 pm »
Whatever you get, be very careful lifting and driving unless you are carrying the load low. Many a machine have been rolled by not following that rule.
As far as lifting and loading logs, look into an older excavator. I have an 8000# class that lifts 2500#, it will take a bigger one to lift 5000 for sure. I now use a thumb and the bucket curl to lift logs, but before I had the thumb I used 2 sets of tongs.

 
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« Reply #52 on: November 11, 2017, 06:56:58 pm »
Don't just limit yourself to local machines. I've saved a lot of money buying machines from far away and having them shipped in. Just take a trip and go look at it or pay a local to the machine independent mechanic check it out.

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« Reply #53 on: November 11, 2017, 09:01:22 pm »
I would not be carrying logs long distances on the loader.  I would just be offloading a trailer and setting logs on the mill.  I figure Iíll do it like the previous picture with two sets of tongs. 

Iím no stranger to driving to buy things.  Iíve bought campers in Illinois, Indiana and my current fifth wheel came from Pittsburgh.  Iím interested in a Kubota 3750 in Denver.
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« Reply #54 on: November 11, 2017, 10:42:13 pm »
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I would not be carrying logs long distances on the loader.  I would just be offloading a trailer and setting logs on the mill.  I figure Iíll do it like the previous picture with two sets of tongs. 

That being the case, have you considered an older knuckle boom log loader? That would give you more sorting options, and most likely come in cheaper than a used industrial tractor.


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« Reply #55 on: November 12, 2017, 09:06:13 am »
That would be awesome, but if my wife came home and found that in my driveway she probably wouldnít be my wife for long.  My mill will be set up just off my driveway near my house.   :D
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« Reply #56 on: November 12, 2017, 11:54:26 am »
Well, y'know . .  that's a handsome looking machine there, in a rugged kinda way.
But, then again, that's not for everyone!
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« Reply #57 on: November 12, 2017, 12:44:36 pm »
I love my Mahindra 5520, 4x4, 51hp, PTO = 45hp

 
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« Reply #58 on: November 12, 2017, 12:49:16 pm »
my atv tool truck


  

 
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« Reply #59 on: November 12, 2017, 02:57:38 pm »
Iím loving all the logging tractor setups.  I didnít know I had so much to do once I get my new tractor.  I only live on about 15 acres so I probably wonít be carrying a four wheeler on the back.
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