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Author Topic: Sold my equipment tried underground mining. Going back logging again  (Read 2941 times)

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Re: Sold my equipment tried underground mining. Going back logging again
« Reply #40 on: November 07, 2017, 08:59:57 pm »
Thanks for the reply u.p mich! Good stuff. Sounds like you have a great system worked out and from the sounds of it you won t have any issues getting back in the game.

You are right about the forwarder landings. It is very deceptive how much wood is there with lots of sorts. 

So your measuring tube. Do you roll it up and un  roll it for every tree or do you just drag it around? I use a spooled self rewinding tape. We do a lot of diff lengths up to 20 ft so I find it the quickest to set the nail at the defect or butt or tip and work off that.

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Re: Sold my equipment tried underground mining. Going back logging again
« Reply #41 on: November 07, 2017, 09:01:35 pm »
Yeah its 128 cubic foot.  What im asking is if your hauling out logs that get cut into firewood, stacked and measured one time to come up with the "it fits 5 cord" figure.. Or was it some other way?

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Re: Sold my equipment tried underground mining. Going back logging again
« Reply #42 on: November 08, 2017, 06:23:00 am »
I use the plastic tube at the 10'9" length with red tape marks along it where my sort lengths need to be cut. and I just carry it around its way faster than using a retractable tape. You could even use a nice straight light stick .  It will cut your bucking time in half I guarantee  it.    I buck as I go down the tree cutting off limbs as I get to them.   As for forwarding hand bucked wood it isn't difficult unless you are in steep terrain or you fall in an area you cannot drive to such as a stream or property line.  Work on directional felling and plan 3 or 4 trees ahead where you need them to go and I'd recommend a forwarder with an extendable boom and you shouldn't have a problem.  As for cordage talk.  A cord is 128 cf.  or in pulpwood terms. 4'x4'x8' long is a pulp cord / loggers cord  my last forwarder held 5 cord. Mind you a lot of what I cut and hauled was logs obviously measured by mbf but I just call it cord when I haul full buggy loads so I know how much I cut without stick scaling everything.   Our pulpwood here is measured mostly by the ton at the mill. Tho some mills stick scale on the truck. 

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Re: Sold my equipment tried underground mining. Going back logging again
« Reply #43 on: November 08, 2017, 09:37:47 am »
I think youre missing my question U.P.    ill rephrase.

When i haul in a load of fresh cut white oak sawlogs that scales 1300 board foot and weighs 23,000 lbs.. How many cord have i got?   Only way i can think to figure it out is cut/split/stack and count how many cord it makes.  I suppose if it was all one length of logs i could measure the bundle dimension and find cubic volume of the shape.

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Re: Sold my equipment tried underground mining. Going back logging again
« Reply #44 on: November 08, 2017, 10:00:33 am »
Mike White oak is a little heaver than Red . Red here is payed on a 5000 pound cord . That was about what I hauled on my 3 axel .
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Re: Sold my equipment tried underground mining. Going back logging again
« Reply #45 on: November 08, 2017, 10:07:42 am »
Thanks.  I finally got off my lazy butt and googled it.  Heres a really thorough chart of various industrial wood metrics.

http://www.globalwood.org/tech/tech_wood_weights.htm

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Re: Sold my equipment tried underground mining. Going back logging again
« Reply #46 on: November 08, 2017, 08:24:17 pm »
We used to lug around a measuring stick, now we have the measure on the saw. It's great you never lose it and it's always with you.

 

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Re: Sold my equipment tried underground mining. Going back logging again
« Reply #47 on: November 08, 2017, 08:33:25 pm »
Is that just a small red rod sticking out? So u use the hole saw and the rod combined?

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Re: Sold my equipment tried underground mining. Going back logging again
« Reply #48 on: November 08, 2017, 08:40:38 pm »
Yes the whole saw and the whip together...makes four feet. if you like you can put whatever marks on it with black tape to get your specific length. I mostly cut eight feet so it's two smacks with the saw and cut above the mark.

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« Reply #49 on: November 08, 2017, 09:10:10 pm »
That's an interesting measuring system. Perhaps I'll give that a try . I'm always looking for a faster more efficient way of doing things .  Tho it seems it may be difficult to judge more than one length.  I can cut 3 lengths with the stick I carry and if I must go longer which doesn't happen often. It's easy to measure  the next length.   How do you go about cutting various lengths with that measuring system?  As my standard lengths are 99".  104" and 128"   I have these all on the same stick .

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Re: Sold my equipment tried underground mining. Going back logging again
« Reply #50 on: November 08, 2017, 09:35:15 pm »
I have a magnetic stick similar to that for cutting firewood. ThAt goes on the bar I find it works great for that.

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Re: Sold my equipment tried underground mining. Going back logging again
« Reply #51 on: November 09, 2017, 02:59:46 am »
I think youre missing my question U.P.    ill rephrase.

When i haul in a load of fresh cut white oak sawlogs that scales 1300 board foot and weighs 23,000 lbs.. How many cord have i got?   Only way i can think to figure it out is cut/split/stack and count how many cord it makes.  I suppose if it was all one length of logs i could measure the bundle dimension and find cubic volume of the shape.

2 1/2-3 cords, weight is irrelevant. Roughly 500bf per cord.
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Re: Sold my equipment tried underground mining. Going back logging again
« Reply #52 on: November 09, 2017, 06:00:45 am »
We used to lug around a measuring stick, now we have the measure on the saw. It's great you never lose it and it's always with you.

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Re: Sold my equipment tried underground mining. Going back logging again
« Reply #53 on: November 09, 2017, 11:11:18 am »
 I used to run a tail when I first started. It's just not Accurate enough it your bucking for grade.
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Re: Sold my equipment tried underground mining. Going back logging again
« Reply #54 on: November 09, 2017, 12:05:06 pm »
What about using a pole from a dome tent? The ones that fold up to I think 18" long? small, lightweight, can mark various lengths then unfold when needed.
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Re: Sold my equipment tried underground mining. Going back logging again
« Reply #55 on: November 09, 2017, 04:28:07 pm »
Depending on what I'm cutting I use either a 100" stick with a two foot mark on each end or a 126" stick with a 100" mark on each end.  Ironwood works the best but sugar maple is fine ;D  Bright paint on them makes them easier to keep track of.  I tried Spencers and never liked them.  The old Contractor Grade Stanleys worked better for me.
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