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Re-tipping Peterson Blade.
« on: October 10, 2017, 12:28:18 pm »
Got a 40" x 30' oak to saw.  But my blades need re-tipped.  We cleaned out the man cave and now I can't find the tips or silver solder.  Is there a way to get them here in the States?  I note that the manual says not to get the blade to red heat so it must be using a low temp silver solder. Any Peterson owners have advice on obtaining tips and the correct solder?  I'll try calling NZ but may not be able to get them today.

I appreciate any help.  We'd like to saw this week if I can get my blades fixed.
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Re: Re-tipping Peterson Blade.
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2017, 01:45:57 pm »
Left Coast Supplies sells Peterson parts in the US.  www.leftcoastsupplies.com

As far as I know the retipping tips which Peterson supplies are a bit wider than the ones on the blade. Their use is for keeping going longer in a pinch.   As far as I know retipping of a blade in the saw shop is followed by grinding including the sides.
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Re: Re-tipping Peterson Blade.
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2017, 03:44:13 pm »
Alright, found the tips and the tips had enough buttered silver that all bonded well with no more silver needed.  I may have to dress a couple of them for length but I should be sawing shortly. The book says to stay below red heat but I had to get dull red to get good bonding.   The jig worked OK but not worth the $700+ that it cost.  I should have just built one.   The silver that I have on hand is 1200 deg +  and I think it would work OK...but I did not need it. 
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Re: Re-tipping Peterson Blade.
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2017, 07:36:53 pm »
In my haste to get back to sawing...I missed one tip.  I have the other blade to re-tip and I'll get the missed one on after I finish it.  Worked really well actually.  Cleaning out the old solder is critical I think.
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Re: Re-tipping Peterson Blade.
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2017, 08:03:56 pm »
A guy in my area sharpens my table saw/ chop saw blades and re-tips them when necessary. Might call a couple cabinet shops to see if some like that is around your area.
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Re: Re-tipping Peterson Blade.
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2017, 11:10:27 pm »
You can buy replacement tips from Payne's saw shop.
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Re: Re-tipping Peterson Blade.
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2017, 01:44:42 am »
I have a Turbosawmill.blades are similar to other swing blades. I built a retipping jig, which worked ok. I havemilled about 30 mbf since getting my mill going this year. I find it well worth the 20 bucks to have the saw shop do it, they charge me 5 bucks per carbide to retip. Blades come out better, and performance is better than new.
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Re: Re-tipping Peterson Blade.
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2017, 11:10:46 am »
I took my blade to a saw shop here in WV and he charge $75 and I supplied the tips AND he put them on backwards.  I would like to use a saw shop if I could find one that did good work in my area.
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Re: Re-tipping Peterson Blade.
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2017, 01:04:05 pm »
I have 5 blades still in boxes that were re-tipped and balanced at 21 Saw Shop in Van Buren, Missouri, (573) 323-8585.  They don't have a website that I'm aware of.  Just another option.
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Re: Re-tipping Peterson Blade.
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2017, 05:59:21 pm »
Paynes and Menominee both do great work (the latter is a FF sponsor); I have used them both.

Nowaday's I use Precision Saw in Polkton, NC.  They stop by the farm every Thursday and pick up my old blades and drop off the sharpened / repaired ones.  The work that they have done on the Peterson blades is outstanding.
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Re: Re-tipping Peterson Blade.
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2017, 09:47:36 pm »
I get mine re tipped in Quebec the owner of the shop picks them up and returns them for 4.50 a tip .Peterson sells them for 4.50  I think and then you have to pay the shipping .I am get a great deal and he does a great job .

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Re: Re-tipping Peterson Blade.
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2017, 06:04:21 am »
I've semt them to Sharp Tool Co, Hudson MA, and to BH Payne at a location in Georgia. Always a good job with both.
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Re: Re-tipping Peterson Blade.
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2017, 12:36:19 pm »
Just about to the point of needing a re tip for my Peterosn JP. Anyone know of a reputable shop in Ohio?
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Re: Re-tipping Peterson Blade.
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2017, 09:05:43 am »
I get mine re tipped in Quebec the owner of the shop picks them up and returns them for 4.50 a tip .Peterson sells them for 4.50  I think and then you have to pay the shipping .I am get a great deal and he does a great job .

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Re: Re-tipping Peterson Blade.
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2017, 03:52:25 am »
Our Kasco dealer member Cutting Edge told me he thought he could do re-tipping, and he is in NW West VA--perhaps near you?  He told me he is a certified welder.
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Re: Re-tipping Peterson Blade.
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2017, 03:58:55 am »
I believe Turbosaw (Jake Peterson) has or is coming out with a swing blade whose tips bolt on.  Not cheap though.  Might be Simonds (sp?) brand?

Net prices on his mills seemed to take a big jump recently so maybe he plans to include something new like that?

My Dougherty tree saw attachment for my SLL has replaceable carbide teeth, about $25 each.  Nice thing about these is that they can be turned three times before replacement.  Maybe they can be sharpened, will see when the time comes.
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Re: Re-tipping Peterson Blade.
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2017, 05:18:38 am »
It's also possible to run insert teeth on a swing blade, and they can be swapped out with a hand tool. Down side is your kerf is slightly bigger. They are usually only recommended if you are remote and don't have access to a good saw doc. While the insert teeth cost a little more, you don't have to pay to replace them, so that kinda evens out.
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Re: Re-tipping Peterson Blade.
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2017, 09:55:59 pm »
 We got the log centered this AM and started sawing.  Cut about 1/3 of the 40" log  by making 2 5" horz. cuts and then a 2" vert release cut.  Became harder to push so I stopped and sharpened and that helped some but still can not make an easy 2 pass cut to 10"  2" release cut also gets hard toward the end of the cut.  I believe the retip is good.  My kerf is as narrow as ever.  I think I can do this job with 3 horz cuts to 10" but it will be slow and difficult.
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Re: Re-tipping Peterson Blade.
« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2017, 10:25:18 pm »
Quinton,I remember once sawing a large cotton wood with my early model 10" wpf. It turned out to be a very hard job due to minimal clearance [set] on the teeth and because it was a slightly bent tree/log. I later found out that that tension/compression wood cuts but leaves fibres [fuzz] like a fresh shorn sheep on the cut face.With minimal set these acted like a major brake on the saw.Circle saws need more set than band saws. to adjust in the horizontal plane [fore and aft] on mine you adjust a set of bolts at the front of the saw frame that the saw and motor sit on.Is it the front of the saw leaving the tooth marks or the back. Take some deep breaths and take 1/8 inch cut up the log,check the pattern.keep working your way across the log and you should have a good planar surface. then with the blade not quite touching the log you will be able to tell which way you need to adjust or if you are out some where else not just fore and aft. I hope you can understand my goboldy gook explanation.hang in there buddy you will sort it. cheers john
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Re: Re-tipping Peterson Blade.
« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2017, 06:00:47 pm »
Qweaver, I know you don't have a turbosawmill, but the concept for setup is the same with any swingblade, though the adjustment points on each head may be different.  Jake has an awesome app called swingblade in the googleplay store, and available from a link on his website for apple products.  It has helped me immensely in setting up my saw quickly and also diagnosing issues as i go along.  It may be of help to your situation.  He also has some very good videos that he has put up on the subject of setup and how to read the cut with a swingblade to determine what type of adjustments to do, to get things singing smoothly.
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