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Author Topic: LT70 Wood Splitter....or......How to Avoid Swinging an Axe  (Read 2080 times)

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Re: LT70 Wood Splitter....or......How to Avoid Swinging an Axe
« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2017, 10:45:25 am »
Well the whole problem is this.  You order say a truck load of logs 16 ft long, so the guy measures them and does his deal with the 4x4x8 and then says well that measures 14 cords.  Now the weights and measure guys say those logs are to be 8 ft long.  And stacked tight. well they only get so tight. then I get them and chop them into 16 inch and split and my 14 cord is no longer 14. So the only way to recapture is sell it by the bag. and or charge enough to cover the loss. My logs are droping into bags and i fiqure 160 cubic ft  to the cord, and that has worked out fine when we stack it here at home. On a per bag bases around 53 cubic ft. I have had several guys think they were getting a cord and were very surprised when i told them no approx 1/3 of a cord. As long as the customer is happy and we the seller are happy. All is good.

That is why the southern United States uses a set of scales.  A short ton of wood (pulp) weighs 2000 pounds on Monday morning or Friday afternoon.  All of our fiber sales are on a weight basis.  We still stick scale a few grade logs, but everything else is sold on a weight basis.

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Re: LT70 Wood Splitter....or......How to Avoid Swinging an Axe
« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2017, 11:36:03 am »
So your saying your wood weighs the same regardless of when its cut. Here its all over the place. Fresh logs weigh more than year old logs. Split wood from fresh logs is going to be heavier than dryed out wood. See we get some yearold harvested birch to fresh cut birch this can be in the same load. Logs in a stack are going to be dryer on the outside or top as oposed to the centre ones. Its a perplexing issue if one gets someone that is very nitpicky about how much he gets. I suppose that if the buyer is happy that is all that matters. We do not sell seasoned wood here, it comes in is split and sold as is. On our web site it is stated as such if you want dry ready to burn winter fuel to get it in the late spring early summer and dry it at your place. We cant afford 120 cord inventory just to help the procrastinaters out. Our customers are getting better at getting it early.
That all said I try to keep selling off the dryest bags first.
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Re: LT70 Wood Splitter....or......How to Avoid Swinging an Axe
« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2017, 02:31:30 pm »
There is nothing other than "fresh felled" on any log trucks that I see and everything is weighed.
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Re: LT70 Wood Splitter....or......How to Avoid Swinging an Axe
« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2017, 02:51:36 pm »
I don't know the exact definition of a cord here, but I'm pretty sure it is for round wood. A cord of  split wood is legally smaller. All firewood is supposed to be sold be the cord, or fraction thereof, not by the "load", or some other random unit.
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Re: LT70 Wood Splitter....or......How to Avoid Swinging an Axe
« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2017, 07:55:34 pm »
There is nothing other than "fresh felled" on any log trucks that I see and everything is weighed.
The only time logs are weighed around here, DOT is involved.    :D
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Re: LT70 Wood Splitter....or......How to Avoid Swinging an Axe
« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2017, 08:09:46 pm »
I see pulp being weighted here,but I don't see much firewood by the cord being weighted.
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Re: LT70 Wood Splitter....or......How to Avoid Swinging an Axe
« Reply #26 on: October 10, 2017, 09:19:31 pm »
Around here anyway you have to be very specific when you talk to the people that sell firewood. If you ask for a cord of wood and they think you don't know any better they will take your money and give you a face cord and gravity stack it for you.
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Re: LT70 Wood Splitter....or......How to Avoid Swinging an Axe
« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2017, 09:30:03 pm »
I gotta couple two three pieces of that myself :D


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Nice...now you just gotta stack it all, you old coot!!! :D


Thanks for your offer to come stack it for me, Percy, I'd love to have you come do that seeing as how I'm such an old coot!! lol
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Re: LT70 Wood Splitter....or......How to Avoid Swinging an Axe
« Reply #28 on: October 10, 2017, 10:03:36 pm »
There is nothing other than "fresh felled" on any log trucks that I see and everything is weighed.
The only time logs are weighed around here, DOT is involved.    :D

I reckon that nobody wins in that weigh in either.

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Re: LT70 Wood Splitter....or......How to Avoid Swinging an Axe
« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2017, 01:54:46 am »
The compay I get my firewood logs from log and haul it to their yard in the winter. I order in spring,  6 to 10 inch logs butts are 10 to 14 inch. 16 ft long. So these logs may be a year old to a few months old. They have 4 to 6 000 cord a year they go through. So weight would not work either.
I guess every one does what they can and the ones that shaft someone or alot of someones will soon be out of business.  We had the province under fire ban all summer so only sold half as much wood as other years.
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Re: LT70 Wood Splitter....or......How to Avoid Swinging an Axe
« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2017, 10:21:27 am »
I gotta couple two three pieces of that myself :D


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Nice...now you just gotta stack it all, you old coot!!! :D


Thanks for your offer to come stack it for me, Percy, I'd love to have you come do that seeing as how I'm such an old coot!! lol
I dont mind helpin a fellow coffin dodger stack wood. When Im there, we can have a few wobbly pops and then some "walker races"  ;D ;D
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Re: LT70 Wood Splitter....or......How to Avoid Swinging an Axe
« Reply #31 on: October 12, 2017, 07:00:09 am »
He's lying about his age, just like most women do. Only he's going in the right direction.   People will say "WOW, you are in amazing shape for being a 125 years old."
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Re: LT70 Wood Splitter....or......How to Avoid Swinging an Axe
« Reply #32 on: October 12, 2017, 10:28:48 am »
He's lying about his age, just like most women do. Only he's going in the right direction.   People will say "WOW, you are in amazing shape for being a 125 years old."
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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« Reply #33 on: October 12, 2017, 08:27:00 pm »
No it's true I really am 125 I turned it over the other day on my odometer.
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