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LT70 Wood Splitter....or......How to Avoid Swinging an Axe
« on: October 08, 2017, 04:27:32 pm »
Im an old man...and this worked slick....  ;D
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Re: LT70 Wood Splitter....or......How to Avoid Swinging an Axe
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2017, 05:15:48 pm »
The only way to split wood  8)
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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2017, 05:29:33 pm »
I've got some you can work up.....LOL
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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2017, 05:37:26 pm »
That's about a Full Cord of solid wood .
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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2017, 06:03:45 pm »
That's about a Full Cord of solid wood .
16 feet long, 6 feet high, 6 feet wide when its four rows.(4x18 inches). Im not a cord guy...issat a cord?? Should last me most of the winter..(Nov-March.)
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Re: LT70 Wood Splitter....or......How to Avoid Swinging an Axe
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2017, 06:07:01 pm »
yea man,,, I've done very similar in the past, not really setting out too? but when I saw it working that way, it happened, bets the crap out of swinging for sure,  8)
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« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2017, 06:19:07 pm »
Solid Wood , I thought it would be neat to saw some timbers smaller than RR ties . Then saw and cut like you did  for $25 more . 4x4x8  or 128cubic feet
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Re: LT70 Wood Splitter....or......How to Avoid Swinging an Axe
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2017, 06:49:08 pm »
Just remember cut like that and stacked solid with no air space . A cord is 80 to 84 cubic ft not 128. It is not fair to short change anyone including yourself.
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« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2017, 07:12:56 pm »
4x4x8=128 cubic feet.
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« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2017, 07:40:13 pm »
Thats if you split it. He is sawing it and it does not have the air space random splits do. Infact take a 4x4x8 cord stack it several times and get several different measurements. Here in canada its all metric. Go to convert to cord and depending on the species of wood different conversion factors. That measurment is close like horseshoes and handgranads.  :D
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« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2017, 10:59:18 pm »
A cord is a cord is a cord. Legal cord is 8 feet X 4 feet X 4 feet whether it's a solid chunk or apple twigs.
Volume is set by statute--price per cord is negotiable.
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« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2017, 12:20:54 am »
4x4x8=128 cubic feet.
Allrighty then....I think I used to know this....heh......regardless, my guzzintas using your formula and my measurements(1.5 feet x 6 feet x 16 feet) says I have 144 cubic feet per row. I have 3.5 rows so that gives me 504 cubic feet. Divide by 128 gives me 3.94 cords.....How'd I do??? :P ;D
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« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2017, 09:31:55 am »
you did great, I`ve been doing it that way since I got the mill, best part is never bending over, buck it up on the mill, put it in the bucket, I dont even stack, I use the little tractor and drive in the shed and dump it, I burn 4-5 cords, best thing for firewood since the wood stove, (well, other than a processor, but I dont have one of those)

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« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2017, 01:25:48 pm »
 Yep, that's what I came up with!

Sorry rjwoelk, I have to disagree with your logic.
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« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2017, 07:52:06 pm »
I gotta couple two three pieces of that myself lol


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« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2017, 09:53:53 pm »
Well the whole problem is this.  You order say a truck load of logs 16 ft long, so the guy measures them and does his deal with the 4x4x8 and then says well that measures 14 cords.  Now the weights and measure guys say those logs are to be 8 ft long.  And stacked tight. well they only get so tight. then I get them and chop them into 16 inch and split and my 14 cord is no longer 14. So the only way to recapture is sell it by the bag. and or charge enough to cover the loss. My logs are droping into bags and i fiqure 160 cubic ft  to the cord, and that has worked out fine when we stack it here at home. On a per bag bases around 53 cubic ft. I have had several guys think they were getting a cord and were very surprised when i told them no approx 1/3 of a cord. As long as the customer is happy and we the seller are happy. All is good.
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« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2017, 06:39:59 am »
Can you measure by bf scale like int 1/4" and pay based on that and convert into cords later?
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« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2017, 07:23:31 am »
 If your log delivery guy says he delivers 4 cords in logs and you cut split and stack these logs and it comes out to be only 2 cords. You have been shorted 2 cords.
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« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2017, 08:41:34 am »
If your log delivery guy says he delivers 4 cords in logs and you cut split and stack these logs and it comes out to be only 2 cords. You have been shorted 2 cords.

Exactly,
My experience with what we call grapple loads here is to expect a yield of 60- 75% of what they say is on the  truck. I think they measure outside the log racks and multiply times the longest log in the load, then average any decimal up to the next whole cord and add the volume of the cab for good measure,,,, ::)



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« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2017, 10:08:02 am »
I gotta couple two three pieces of that myself lol


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« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2017, 10:45:25 am »
Well the whole problem is this.  You order say a truck load of logs 16 ft long, so the guy measures them and does his deal with the 4x4x8 and then says well that measures 14 cords.  Now the weights and measure guys say those logs are to be 8 ft long.  And stacked tight. well they only get so tight. then I get them and chop them into 16 inch and split and my 14 cord is no longer 14. So the only way to recapture is sell it by the bag. and or charge enough to cover the loss. My logs are droping into bags and i fiqure 160 cubic ft  to the cord, and that has worked out fine when we stack it here at home. On a per bag bases around 53 cubic ft. I have had several guys think they were getting a cord and were very surprised when i told them no approx 1/3 of a cord. As long as the customer is happy and we the seller are happy. All is good.

That is why the southern United States uses a set of scales.  A short ton of wood (pulp) weighs 2000 pounds on Monday morning or Friday afternoon.  All of our fiber sales are on a weight basis.  We still stick scale a few grade logs, but everything else is sold on a weight basis.

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« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2017, 11:36:03 am »
So your saying your wood weighs the same regardless of when its cut. Here its all over the place. Fresh logs weigh more than year old logs. Split wood from fresh logs is going to be heavier than dryed out wood. See we get some yearold harvested birch to fresh cut birch this can be in the same load. Logs in a stack are going to be dryer on the outside or top as oposed to the centre ones. Its a perplexing issue if one gets someone that is very nitpicky about how much he gets. I suppose that if the buyer is happy that is all that matters. We do not sell seasoned wood here, it comes in is split and sold as is. On our web site it is stated as such if you want dry ready to burn winter fuel to get it in the late spring early summer and dry it at your place. We cant afford 120 cord inventory just to help the procrastinaters out. Our customers are getting better at getting it early.
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« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2017, 02:31:30 pm »
There is nothing other than "fresh felled" on any log trucks that I see and everything is weighed.
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« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2017, 02:51:36 pm »
I don't know the exact definition of a cord here, but I'm pretty sure it is for round wood. A cord of  split wood is legally smaller. All firewood is supposed to be sold be the cord, or fraction thereof, not by the "load", or some other random unit.
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« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2017, 07:55:34 pm »
There is nothing other than "fresh felled" on any log trucks that I see and everything is weighed.
The only time logs are weighed around here, DOT is involved.    :D
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« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2017, 08:09:46 pm »
I see pulp being weighted here,but I don't see much firewood by the cord being weighted.
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« Reply #26 on: October 10, 2017, 09:19:31 pm »
Around here anyway you have to be very specific when you talk to the people that sell firewood. If you ask for a cord of wood and they think you don't know any better they will take your money and give you a face cord and gravity stack it for you.
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« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2017, 09:30:03 pm »
I gotta couple two three pieces of that myself :D


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« Reply #28 on: October 10, 2017, 10:03:36 pm »
There is nothing other than "fresh felled" on any log trucks that I see and everything is weighed.
The only time logs are weighed around here, DOT is involved.    :D

I reckon that nobody wins in that weigh in either.

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« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2017, 01:54:46 am »
The compay I get my firewood logs from log and haul it to their yard in the winter. I order in spring,  6 to 10 inch logs butts are 10 to 14 inch. 16 ft long. So these logs may be a year old to a few months old. They have 4 to 6 000 cord a year they go through. So weight would not work either.
I guess every one does what they can and the ones that shaft someone or alot of someones will soon be out of business.  We had the province under fire ban all summer so only sold half as much wood as other years.
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« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2017, 10:21:27 am »
I gotta couple two three pieces of that myself :D


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Thanks for your offer to come stack it for me, Percy, I'd love to have you come do that seeing as how I'm such an old coot!! lol
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« Reply #31 on: October 12, 2017, 07:00:09 am »
He's lying about his age, just like most women do. Only he's going in the right direction.   People will say "WOW, you are in amazing shape for being a 125 years old."
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« Reply #32 on: October 12, 2017, 10:28:48 am »
He's lying about his age, just like most women do. Only he's going in the right direction.   People will say "WOW, you are in amazing shape for being a 125 years old."
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« Reply #33 on: October 12, 2017, 08:27:00 pm »
No it's true I really am 125 I turned it over the other day on my odometer.
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