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Re: Horse Logging
« Reply #40 on: October 13, 2017, 07:53:58 am »
I jump in our 80,000 pound air braked ladder truck and take off as fast as she will go with nothing more than a class D license. Gotta love volunteer fire departments :) If the red lights are on it adds at least 20 mph to your top speed. ask anyone who thinks we drive to fast.
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Re: Horse Logging
« Reply #41 on: October 13, 2017, 04:43:46 pm »
I have no interest in becoming a logger, but this has been a very interesting thread to read. You guys sure bring a lot of good info to the party, and always with a helpful attitude even when the message is one of caution or "looking before you leap". That's what makes this forum indispensable. Happy Friday The 13th!   - Jason
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Re: Horse Logging
« Reply #42 on: October 13, 2017, 04:57:27 pm »
 whether we talked you into it or out of it, maybe it'll be your lucky day after all👌
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Re: Horse Logging
« Reply #43 on: November 05, 2017, 07:26:17 pm »
Nope, hard or not im still very driven to horse log. Though im not sure how im going to do it. Im looking at either Cedar River horse logging or healing harvest forest foundation. They both offer an apprenticeship. Even with that it will still be hard i know.  I don't want to get rich just a living for my family one day.

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Re: Horse Logging
« Reply #44 on: November 06, 2017, 02:11:36 pm »
I'm a fan of "follow your passion."  Followed by "don't quite your day job".  At least until you have a bunch of work lined up and it looks sustainable. 

Many will say something can't be done.  It may be true or they may not have looked at it in the right light...

I've accomplished the most by using time and money in this order:

Needs
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Many people get distracted by wants and then lack the resources to chase dreams. 

I do hope you keep us updated on your journey.
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Re: Horse Logging
« Reply #45 on: November 06, 2017, 06:15:55 pm »
I definitely say go for it.  One guy runs a marathon, why shouldnt the other one draft log?   

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Re: Horse Logging
« Reply #46 on: November 06, 2017, 07:40:01 pm »
What is your experience with horses?
Ridin enough to go by your self?
If not then find some one local that has horses and see if you are comfortable around them. Drafts are big animals and if you are unfamilar around them a steped on foot will not feel good. You should learn how to be around smaller horses first. The drafts are a lot more docile but 2 to 3 times as heavy.  Then if you cannot get comfortable with them you save yourself the expense of the schooling. 
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Re: Horse Logging
« Reply #47 on: November 07, 2017, 10:40:54 pm »
No I have 0 experience riding horses,  only experience i have is riding mules down grand canyon about 12 years ago, haha so yea no experience. Of course there would need to be a market in my area for this and im not sure how to see if there is one.  I believe an apprenticeship would be a good idea but there like 10 weeks long and while i do get a week off at a time i couldn't take off that much time.  And on top of that im not sure how to market this or how to advertise. So I definitely have a lot of work ahead of me.

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Re: Horse Logging
« Reply #48 on: November 12, 2017, 08:48:38 pm »
Going back to air brakes and brake failure, they are fail safe, in that if the air pressure suddenly fails, the brakes are applied. But on the other side, if you use them incorrectly you can lose your brakes.
I have a CDL (however it's only good for school buses). If you pump your brakes too much on a long hill, you can use air faster than the pump replaces it, then the brakes got over heated, making you pump more and harder, BINGO, brakes fail. In CDL classes (instruction) we are taught not to pump the brakes, either hold relative steady pressure or minimal peddle movement as you vary the peddle pressure.
I believe that big train wreck was the result of a leak in the air tanks or the tank supply hoses which was faster than the pumps could replace it, the brakes over heated and failed. That was before the simple warning device all air brake vehicles now have, a wig wag, which drops to warn the operator that the air pressure is getting low. Without that visual warning an operator who is not paying proper attention to all of the gauges and meters might no notice low air pressure until it gets too low. Weak air pressure makes the brakes drag and they can get super hot. Overheated brakes do not work. This is why on many long steep hills you will see signs for a run away truck ramps. If a big truck loses their brakes on that hill , they pull off and come to a rather abrupt stop, but if the driver hit the ramp right, they are still alive and the rig is stuck but upright. In those, there is a very loose, usually round stone deep enough to allow the tires to sink down enough to stop the rig.
On horse logging, I've done a fair amount of it, but only for firewood and only in the winter. That's another story, in another thread from a few years ago. Long story short, I felled the trees and bucked them, while a single horse pulled the logs out without a driver. At the landing, my brother unhitched him and headed him back in, then he piled the logs on the landing using a tractor FEL. If I wasn't yet ready when the horse got back in the horse stopped about 100-150' away and waited. When I shut off the chainsaw, and called the horse, he came the rest of the way. I put a chain on the log while he came in, then I backed vhim to the log and quietly hooked the chain to the whiffle tree. I say quietly because as soon as the horse heard the chain drop he was off, ready or not.
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Re: Horse Logging
« Reply #49 on: November 14, 2017, 03:58:18 am »
 :o :o what a great horse!!

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Re: Horse Logging
« Reply #50 on: November 14, 2017, 05:45:58 am »
Going back to air brakes and brake failure, they are fail safe, in that if the air pressure suddenly fails, the brakes are applied...
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I believe that big train wreck was the result of a leak in the air tanks or the tank supply hoses which was faster than the pumps could replace it, the brakes over heated and failed. That was before...

As the song goes, "....3 mile grade...that he lost his air brakes...see what a jump he made....

There are a few variations but that's close.  From memory not google.

A VA Landmarks historic marker in Danville VA commemorates the accident and the 8 gentlemen who died that night.  I spent 3 months working as an engineering coop student for what's now CSX, met lots of true "Railroad Men" (not many women then) from central casting; that song moves me.
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