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Offline Bruno of NH

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New Tool
« on: September 03, 2017, 01:32:06 pm »
I added to my cordless fleet of tools.
Upgraded to this Dewalt saw with a new style of battery its 60 volts.
It will run 60 volt,40 volt and 20 volt tools.
The saw is a 20 volt so its like having 3 battery's in one has lots of power and cuts nice.
I went with the 20 volt saw for weight i use mostly for cutting shiplap siding at my summer contract job.
They make a 60 volt saw but i thought it was to heavy for what i use them for.
The one i got will cut framing lumber.

  

 
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Re: New Tool
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2017, 03:33:54 pm »
That brute should serve you well.   8)
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Re: New Tool
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2017, 11:42:59 pm »
I'm still using the old 18 volt stuff.
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Re: New Tool
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2017, 03:11:30 pm »
I am giving up on battery tools. If you make a living with them and can write them off they are great, but for home use I am finding batteries to be a big money pit that create quite a bit of hazardous waste. Corded tools never become obsolete.  :)
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Re: New Tool
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2017, 03:28:32 pm »
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I find the more the battery's are used they last longer.
If they get light use they don't last that long that's the one drawback.
At my summer contract in a condominium complex folks don't like us using their power outlets that's why I go cordless.
I charge the battery's in my shop each night.
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Re: New Tool
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2017, 03:32:39 pm »
I go cordless for daily use tools (drill, skill saw, driver) and corded for occasional use tools
(sawzall, jigsaw, etc)
75 Acres of hardwoods that i want to try to optimize for HW growth, health and habitat. Also interested in creating a few small stands of fruit/nut trees and sample of different native species

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Re: New Tool
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2017, 04:38:53 pm »
I am eliminating my corded tools as fast as I can afford to.  8)
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Re: New Tool
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2017, 05:01:19 pm »
I have an OLD worm drive Skilsaw.  The thing is a tank and pretty much nothing stops it.  But it is heavy!!!  When I was working on my foundation blocks (can be cut like wood), it got real old real fast to fire up the generator, cut the block and then kill the genny.

My 20v DeWalt saw was soooo much more convenient!

On the 60v batteries - so it works like a triple 20v battery on a 20v tool?  That's pretty clever of DeWalt.  I've got three 5amp-hr, two 4amp-hr and two 2amp-hr batteries and 4 chargers so I don't think I'll be switching over any time soon.

I have the usual drill / impact combo kit that came with a sawsall and flashlight, the circular saw, leaf blower and weed wacker.  Also a corded sawsall, drill and hammer drill by DeWalt.
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Re: New Tool
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2017, 05:41:52 pm »
Yes it works like 3 20volt battery's on a 20 volt tool .
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Re: New Tool
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2017, 06:09:47 pm »
Keep in mind you only get 1/3 the amperage. Total wattage determines power output.

Splitting up their voltage platform may not have been a good move. Milwaukee is staying with 18 volts, and all tools and batteries will interchange.
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Re: New Tool
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2017, 06:17:50 pm »
The higher voltage basically reduces the current draw for the same power. This means the motor / wiring / control electronics can be lighter.

If you want 1,000 watts of power from a 20v system, you will need 50 amps flowing. To get the same 1,000w from a 60v system, it's only about 17 amps.

So you can up the power of the tool, without having to add massive amounts of (expensive) copper, larger contacts and switches etc.  The watt / hour rating of the battery is likely the same, but the 60v version should be slightly lighter and cheaper for the same power output. Or have a a bit more power for the same cost / weight.
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Re: New Tool
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2017, 06:29:30 pm »
As long as it crosscut and rips shiplap siding all day on one charge I will be happy.
I got a great deal on the battery the same as a high capacity 20 volt.
So I thought I would give it a try .
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Re: New Tool
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2017, 06:33:07 pm »
But is that savings worth it to have split their platform? Comparisons between Dewalt and Milwaukee SCMS show that Dewalt 60volt have a slight edge in power, but require  multiple batteries and chargers, longer charge times, and less actual cuts.
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Re: New Tool
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2017, 06:43:24 pm »
I didn't have to buy a new charger it charged on my 20 volt charger that came with my dewalt 20 volt muti- tool
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Re: New Tool
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2017, 08:03:35 pm »
 The SCMS requires two chargers to recharge in a timely fashion. Sorry to distract from your original post.
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Re: New Tool
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2017, 08:25:11 am »
I am eliminating my corded tools as fast as I can afford to.  8)

Save those old corded tools. In a couple years they will have a small battery pack to hang on your belt that will work with any corded tool. 1 battery that fits all.  8)
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Re: New Tool
« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2017, 09:43:15 am »
21 thats probably true.  But it wont happen untill they are pretty sure the cordless market is saturated.   Banjo
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Re: New Tool
« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2017, 09:50:42 am »
Around the shop I use corded tools for most things as they generally have more power and never go dead. But out and about around the farm cordless is king. Dragging a generator out to drill holes for fencing isn't real fun and the cordless impact is the cats meow for changing blades on the hay mower. I've abused my 20v brushless dewalt 1/2" drill and it keeps on ticking (although with some motor smoke from time to time haha)...

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Re: New Tool
« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2017, 11:22:54 am »
I tried one of those saws out at the logging show in Bangor this past spring; very impressive! I couldn't imagine if I was a framer or roofer being without it.

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Re: New Tool
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2017, 05:26:29 pm »
I have one of the first battery drills made by Souix.  It has a cord with two alligator clips for connecting it to a 12v auto battery.
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