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Church type organ.
« on: September 02, 2017, 05:29:15 am »
Any one know anything about them?  There was an estate sale in our neighborhood and they had this organ. It said free. They said they called churches and no one wanted it because it is obsolete. They said it worked. Until it didn't when they went to show me it did.. But hardly ever used. The lady that died bought it new and it just sat in her home for years until she recently passed away.

When you turn the power on, everything lights up, there just is no sound.
 

 

We found the receipt for it in the bench. This thing was expensive!
 

 
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Re: Church type organ.
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2017, 05:49:36 am »
It might be something simple,like a blown fuse .Depending on the age it could have tube type circuitry .

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Re: Church type organ.
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2017, 05:54:52 am »
I just Googled Lowery 350 and there is some information available .

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Re: Church type organ.
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2017, 07:45:33 am »
It could be something pretty simple. If you know someone that's an electronics-type he may find it pretty quick.  That was a pretty decent organ in it's day, but that day has passed for sure.  It could still lead a productive life at your house.  Lowery had a pretty good rep for church organs.  It's not a Hammond, but it does what it does )or did what it did) pretty well.  Good luck with it.
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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2017, 08:22:04 am »
Load it up on the back of M.R. Truck and Tammy could play it while you drive in the Fall Festival and Christmas Parades.

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Re: Church type organ.
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2017, 09:52:38 am »
Depending on your plans, I hear some organs have a fair amount of silver in them.  Contacts under the keys maybe?  Depends on make and model I guess.
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Re: Church type organ.
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2017, 12:10:49 pm »
We have an older model Hammond organ and it needs to have the bellows oiled every year or else there is no sound.  Remove the back and you should see oil ports.  Light machine oil will work.  On ours, there is a power switch - turning it on lights everything up.  There is also a run switch - you hold that one until you hear the bellows system build up pressure - you should then have sound.
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« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2017, 12:29:45 pm »
Tom, those aren't bellows, they are tone wheels.  The Hammond is unique in the way it generates its sound.  It is a marvel of electro-mechanical design and is a patented tone-generating system.  There are about twelve million little tone wheels, which are notched and sized to produce specific frequency's at running speed.  For each tone wheel there is a pickup - much like a guitar pickup.  These are combined by amounts set by the drawbars to add or subtract overtones.  The oil you add is to lubricate the shafts on which the tone wheels are mounted.  The whole thing runs by way of synchronous motor whose speed is determined by line frequency.  The motor will not self start, so there is a sort of pony-motor to get the thing up to speed.  It's really an amazing system.  Extremely expensive to produce today.  The sound can be modeled using digital synthesis (this is the way it's done by Hammond now), but it's never quite the same as the original tone generation.  Close though, and much easier to carry around.

Now that everybody's eyes are glazing over, I'll just leave it at that.

The Lowery organs used electronic tone generation exclusively.  Lowery was very clever with their designs and got a lot out of the available technology at every point in time.  The Lowery organs never gained the status the Hammond did for rock,pop, jazz music, etc., although there were a few times when a Lowery did show up on a hit record.

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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2017, 03:17:28 pm »
Mr Benton was our church choir director and also the school principal. In his office at school he had one of the old time pump organs. If you were bad you had to pump while he played. The severity of the offense determined the tempo and duration. I also got to move that beast a time or two  :D.

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« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2017, 09:12:38 pm »
How about another one.. This one is a wurlitzer, given to me just like Jeff's was. Everything works, just no sound. It was given to me with a string attached, I have to fix it, then either learn to play it or find someone else who will..
 

 

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Re: Church type organ.
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2017, 01:42:13 pm »
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Re: Church type organ.
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2017, 03:08:22 pm »
Does it have headphone jack? plug in headphones see if you can hear anything.

Forgive me if your video showed it working I can't watch those at work.
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« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2017, 06:36:25 pm »
OK so I just remembered to watch the video. Wow. good luck :) I like the desk idea.

My wife had an old piano that sounded terrible and never got played so we tore it apart and now just the sounding board is hanging on the wall as wall art. the 2 year old loves to bank on it and make lots of noise.

Doesn't look like that one will make nice wall art
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« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2017, 08:18:16 pm »
I wish I would have had a camera running a bit ago when Tammy jumped through the roof of the barn. I did find I could make it make a sound. There is a reverb box, and if you tunk it, it makes a crashing noise. I tunked it with the volume full and Tammy sitting on the bench.
So, the transformer, amp, volume, and speakers all work.
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« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2017, 08:19:35 pm »
How is Tammy doing?  ;D
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« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2017, 08:32:02 pm »
Yer supposed to ask how i am.
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« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2017, 10:03:41 pm »
I wouldn't surrender quite yet on that thing .Cover it with a tarp and think about for a while .

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« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2017, 10:10:03 pm »
Sounds like a switch is off somewhere  ???

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« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2017, 10:20:26 pm »
What he said .It's probably something simple .Don't  give up the ship and turn it into a picnic table or something .
A little advice for the two cents it's worth .I'm somewhat a half-fast mechanical/electrical wizard and I've been humbled more times than I can count .Walk away ,ponder for a while,eventually you'll figure it out ,with or without other advice .