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Offline Knute

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Wisconsin cutting & skidding costs
« on: August 27, 2017, 10:02:02 pm »
Wondering how the current costs are running to cut and skid red oak mostly 16" to 30" diameter. Skidding distance 800' to 2000'. Looks like about 40,000 bf.

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Re: Wisconsin cutting & skidding costs
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2017, 10:38:05 pm »
252 Views and no replies. I do understand why this is a question better unanswered. Will try a picture of the logs. May or may not work. Haven't tried it before.

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Re: Wisconsin cutting & skidding costs
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2017, 11:41:20 am »
I would answer, but I don't really have any experience in the situation your describing. I think we are in the $45-50 per cord range with the CTL crews. Too many unknown variables to give a price, is it thinning?
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Re: Wisconsin cutting & skidding costs
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2017, 06:23:16 pm »
A common price for cut and skid in WI is $130/M. The large tree size is good but the long skid is bad. So $5200 for 40M feet. But the real price is what you can get someone to do it for. 

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Re: Wisconsin cutting & skidding costs
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2017, 10:32:01 pm »
Thank You. I paid $200/M. I know it is high but I needed to get it done for the Managed Forest Law. Got $527/M for the logs which I thought was good. Will try a picture again. If it doesn't work this time I will need to read the instructions which I hate to do. Never have trouble posting pictures from my card.

 

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Re: Wisconsin cutting & skidding costs
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2017, 09:14:30 am »
you did well I think.  That's a 3/5 to you, or 60% which is more than most loggers would give here in VA.  Nice bunch of logs, what was the species mix?  All cut to 8'6"?

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Re: Wisconsin cutting & skidding costs
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2017, 09:15:45 am »
Looking back I see you were planning on mostly red oak. 

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Re: Wisconsin cutting & skidding costs
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2017, 08:28:37 pm »
Yes, mostly red oak with a few cherry and maple. Most are 8'-6" with some longer.

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Re: Wisconsin cutting & skidding costs
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2017, 11:45:02 am »
I really wish 8'6 was an easier sell here.  The general insistence on 10'6 for a good rate on grade lumber turns a lot of nice short logs into firewood on me.

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Re: Wisconsin cutting & skidding costs
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2017, 04:23:07 pm »
Knute
Great landing picture. I Don't get to see 40 mbf in logs laid out like that .

WHO pays the trucking on that wood? That is the final # to know how you did

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Re: Wisconsin cutting & skidding costs
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2017, 09:40:53 pm »
The sawmill which bought the logs is hauling them at their cost . I will get the $527/M with no expenses except the skidding and pay the forester. I looked at the logs again and quite a few are in the 10-12' range.

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Re: Wisconsin cutting & skidding costs
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2017, 08:19:55 pm »
I used to a fair amount of contract loggin and when I would get the "tire kickers" callin and asking what I  charged I would tell the "as much as I can".  ;D

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Re: Wisconsin cutting & skidding costs
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2017, 10:27:48 pm »
Here you would never do any good selling the hole tree to one mill. Seperate blocking, tie, and grade.  Minumum 3 mills. If one mill buys the whack, then follow the trucks leaving they will be turning in the direction the logs pay the most. That's here though. Are mills cut for only certain things not really a one stop shop mill here that pays good for the hole tree... but 527mbf mill paying trucking sounds real good for tree average.. I truck 3 hours round trip to find decent mills.
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