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Old single sided planer rebuild

Started by Quebecnewf, August 21, 2017, 05:25:44 AM

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Quebecnewf


Found this old planer setting outdoors on a hill and decided to rescue it and get it running again if possible



I now have a pile of parts on my workshop floor.



Got the cutter head bolts out yesterday . They look ok I think.



Still a bit more to remove and things to unstick and then start to clean and paint.

Interesting project and I am learning a lot as I go

Quebecnewf







Kbeitz

Great... I'll be watching... Nice to see someone else doing the rust thing.
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And now a saw mill work

Quebecnewf

Yes I saw you are into the rust as well. I think you are far ahead of me in this dept. This is my first real rebuild. Sad to say I do not weld so I have to be real careful not to break anything. This unit has come apart very good so far. I have been using a mix of ATFand acetone mixed 50/50 . Seems to be doing the trick. Glad I got all those cutter head bolts out without breaking any. I do have some stuck shafts that are a concern. Still have not went at them with full force yet. Just heating and squirting so far. Giving them time and notice that they are going to come loose one way or the other.

Quebecnewf

Kbeitz

I don't use a lot of force. If something does not move like a bolt
I just bump it back and forth many many times. You can't see it
but it is probably moving maybe only a 1000's of an inch. That will
grow. Next thing you know it's moving 2000's of and inch. I have
spent an hour tapping a wrench one way then the other without
seeing it move. Keep at it and you will win.
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and Wood work shop work
And now a saw mill work

bandmiller2

Cast iron parts can be soaked in muriatic acid to completely remove rust and make them look new, flush well. Planers are a finicky machine requiring much adjustment and maintenance. After your complete teardown it will hide no secrets from you and you will not hesitate to make needed adjustments. Frank C.
A man armed with common sense is packing a big piece

Bob_T

Great project.  I have a similar but different 24" Porter planer that I haven't started on yet.  Who's the maker of yours?  What will you power it with? 

You probably know, lots of ways to remove rust, including plain old cleaning vinegar, citric acid, the commercial rust remover chemicals and electrolysis. 
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1955 Allis Chalmers HD-6G Crawler Loader
1941 GMC CCKW 6X6
Wood-Mizer LT30 G18

grouch

Those curved spokes suggest it is very old. Any info?

Find something to do that interests you.

Kbeitz

When you get it finished and want to keep it looking good
and you want a slippery top get a can of (SlipIt Sliding Compound).
It also protects it from rusting again. This stuff is great for table saws.



 
Collector and builder of many things.
Love machine shop work
and Wood work shop work
And now a saw mill work

TKehl

Quote from: grouch on August 21, 2017, 09:14:16 AM
Those curved spokes suggest it is very old. Any info?



As do the counterweights versus springs. 
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Quebecnewf

Here's what I know. The planer is badged Bournival . This was a guy ( Doctor) in Montreal who had a business selling woodworking machines . Machine was made by Continental Machine Works in Montreal. Their production line was bought out by Jos Poitras ( my three sided planer was made by Jos Poitras. They in turn were bought out by General tools of Drummondville . Small, world. No idea of the age maybe 1940 ,s . Not sure about that.

Quebecnewf

Kbeitz

I was one told the all curved spokes are made in England or out of USA.
All straight spokes are made in USA.
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Love machine shop work
and Wood work shop work
And now a saw mill work

Bob_T


Sign up over at OWWM.org  (old wood working machines) and post a picture.  Those guys know everything about vintage machinery.

Quote from: Quebecnewf on August 21, 2017, 05:41:47 PM
Here's what I know. The planer is badged Bournival . This was a guy ( Doctor) in Montreal who had a business selling woodworking machines . Machine was made by Continental Machine Works in Montreal. Their production line was bought out by Jos Poitras ( my three sided planer was made by Jos Poitras. They in turn were bought out by General tools of Drummondville . Small, world. No idea of the age maybe 1940 ,s . Not sure about that.

Quebecnewf
1959 FWD Model 286 Dump Truck
1955 Allis Chalmers HD-6G Crawler Loader
1941 GMC CCKW 6X6
Wood-Mizer LT30 G18

Quebecnewf

That's were most of this info came from . Been posting over there as . Lots of good info to be had

Quebecnewf



Spent the day up righting my kiln that blew over last fall

Andries

Hey!
It's good to see that "high wind casualty" being put right-side up again!
Will you install ground anchors and cables as hold downs this time?

Also, looks like a great planer find.
Looking forward to seeing more photos of the clean up and restoration project.
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grouch

Quote from: Kbeitz on August 21, 2017, 06:29:55 PM
I was one told the all curved spokes are made in England or out of USA.
All straight spokes are made in USA.

Curved castings were made to relieve stresses regardless of country of origin. See, e.g., the old curved wrenches that became the focus of a collector fad a few years ago.
Find something to do that interests you.

Quebecnewf



The upright went well. Got it pulled back near its original location . Will shore it up in the coming days and make some repairs . Inside will be gutted and redone , water damage .

Quebecnewf



Quebecnewf



Just need to be jacked, levelled and shored

Quebecnewf.


Quebecnewf



Got the rest of the planer took apart yesterday . Time to start cleaning and painting . Then hope that I took enough pictures to put it back together again

Quebecnewf

grouch

Quote from: Quebecnewf on August 22, 2017, 05:55:31 AM


Just need to be jacked, levelled and shored

Quebecnewf.

And anchored. ;)
Find something to do that interests you.

sealark37

Your planer looks like a great project.  Keep us in the loop, and good luck on the refurb.  Regards, Clark

Quebecnewf



Got all the cutter head bolts removed. They look good. Just need new washers.
Big believer in the 50/50 acetone and ATF mix as a release agent. I never broke a bolt on the whole tear down.

Bed all cleaned up and ready for painting .



Getting some painting done.

Now looking for

A place In Canada if possible to get info and buy some flat belts.
A place in Canada if possible to buy a small amount of Babbitt

A power supply maybe a new or good second hand engine gas or diesel

Some method to clutch in this engine after startup . Maybe a PTO but most likely just something jury rigged to move the engine and put tension on the belt.

I'm sure you guys have pics of some of your setups that will help me in this regard.

Please feel free to jump in with any comments. This is a new road for me .

Quebecnewf



Kbeitz

Does that have the square heads in it ?
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Love machine shop work
and Wood work shop work
And now a saw mill work

Quebecnewf

Yes this is a square head machine . It has an 18" wide cut .

Quebecnewf

Kbeitz

I was at an auction and no one would bid on a planer because it was a square head.
They said it was a widow maker. Very dangerous. I guess they kick like a mule.
Please don't get hurt.
Collector and builder of many things.
Love machine shop work
and Wood work shop work
And now a saw mill work

loganworks2

Be careful and never stand behind the planer when in use. I had a close friend who was almost killed when one kicked a board back. He spent over a month in the hospital with ruptured intestine and torn liver. It took him a year to recover.

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