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Re: Old single sided planer rebuild
« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2017, 04:22:26 am »


Got all the cutter head bolts removed. They look good. Just need new washers.
Big believer in the 50/50 acetone and ATF mix as a release agent. I never broke a bolt on the whole tear down.

Bed all cleaned up and ready for painting .



Getting some painting done.

Now looking for

A place In Canada if possible to get info and buy some flat belts.
A place in Canada if possible to buy a small amount of Babbitt

A power supply maybe a new or good second hand engine gas or diesel

Some method to clutch in this engine after startup . Maybe a PTO but most likely just something jury rigged to move the engine and put tension on the belt.

I'm sure you guys have pics of some of your setups that will help me in this regard.

Please feel free to jump in with any comments. This is a new road for me .

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Re: Old single sided planer rebuild
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2017, 08:35:27 am »
Does that have the square heads in it ?
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Re: Old single sided planer rebuild
« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2017, 05:36:20 pm »
Yes this is a square head machine . It has an 18" wide cut .

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Re: Old single sided planer rebuild
« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2017, 07:47:23 pm »
I was at an auction and no one would bid on a planer because it was a square head.
They said it was a widow maker. Very dangerous. I guess they kick like a mule.
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Re: Old single sided planer rebuild
« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2017, 08:30:29 pm »
Be careful and never stand behind the planer when in use. I had a close friend who was almost killed when one kicked a board back. He spent over a month in the hospital with ruptured intestine and torn liver. It took him a year to recover.

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Re: Old single sided planer rebuild
« Reply #25 on: September 04, 2017, 06:09:55 am »
I have heard that said a few times as well. I think kickback can be traced to two causes. Improperly set up planer and or feeding stock with too great a thickness difference.
Just because a planer of this type can hog of a1/4" of wood at a time does not mean  you should do so . As I'm feeding lumber into my planers now I am always feeling the thickness as I handle each board. If I feel a thick one it gets tossed aside to be fed in its own later. I am only planing the lumber I saw and I watch my sawing carefully .

Never had kickback yet . Hopefully with good setup, good sawing , and good feeding habits ( no standing behind a board ) I can avoid this problem .

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Also looking into installing anti kickback Pawls as a safety add on .

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Re: Old single sided planer rebuild
« Reply #26 on: September 04, 2017, 09:53:14 am »
I suffered a kickback from a square head planer. It gave me a compound fracture of my arm. I was in the hospital for a week. I would not use a square machine.   :(   Muggs

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Re: Old single sided planer rebuild
« Reply #28 on: September 04, 2017, 11:27:22 am »
I suffered a kickback from a square head planer. It gave me a compound fracture of my arm. I was in the hospital for a week. I would not use a square machine.   :(   Muggs

Very sorry to hear that., Now that the incident is over and looking back . What caused the kickback? Operator error . Improperly set up machine ? Something else ?

As we know these machines were used for many years and I am sure there were accidents as there still is today with new " modern " machines

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Re: Old single sided planer rebuild
« Reply #30 on: September 04, 2017, 12:22:30 pm »
There is a place in Williamsport pa. that will make you a spiral head for you
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Re: Old single sided planer rebuild
« Reply #31 on: September 04, 2017, 01:22:58 pm »
I set up the planer when I was young and dumb. I set the knife projection too far, taking too big of a bite. Once the board got past the front feed roller nothing was holding it. The board came out at the speed of the cutterhead. The difference between the square and the round cutter head is, the round is self limiting, where the square head is not. The same machine also threw a knife, breaking the table.

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Re: Old single sided planer rebuild
« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2017, 05:01:21 pm »
The set up is very important on these machines. If you do something wrong they do not forgive . That being said this wil be my first square head so I am carefully studying all the aspects of proper setup.

Do you know the cause of the thrown knife?

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Re: Old single sided planer rebuild
« Reply #33 on: September 04, 2017, 05:02:39 pm »
There is a place in Williamsport pa. that will make you a spiral head for you
for that machine.
Can you send a link . It might be worth checking that out

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Re: Old single sided planer rebuild
« Reply #34 on: September 04, 2017, 05:26:52 pm »
I believe the thrown knife was caused by using it past its prime. Too short. Another reason for not liking square heads, is the noise. They do not cut through the air like a round cylinder does.    Muggs

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Re: Old single sided planer rebuild
« Reply #35 on: September 04, 2017, 06:21:29 pm »
Now that is strange . It was my understanding that square heads were the quiet ones. If I am correct there was a video on YouTube showing this. I am sure there will be some of the learned folks on this forum who will chime in on this .

So without being too judgemental both problems with the unsafe square head were caused by human error.

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Re: Old single sided planer rebuild
« Reply #36 on: September 04, 2017, 06:43:24 pm »
I could see the square head making a bit more wind noise but round or square, a straight blade is going to make more noise in the wood.  The advantages of a spiral head is it will take less power to make a cut and, with the right design, changing the blade is cheaper.
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Re: Old single sided planer rebuild
« Reply #37 on: September 04, 2017, 09:17:10 pm »
My old Yates 199 jointer, 2000 lbs. round head has two blades on Babbit bearings.
When I looked into the spiral head conversion, the prevailing thought was that more power was needed because more "cutting edge" was in the wood at any given moment.
I haven't searched here on the FF, but if memory serves, it was a discussion about Grizzly planers, spiral heads and the amount of power needed before and after a conversion.
I've decided to leave my jointer the way it is, 'cause the babbits are in good shape and will probably outlast me.

Quebecnewf, this may deserve some looking into as you pick a motor to drive the planer.
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Re: Old single sided planer rebuild
« Reply #38 on: September 05, 2017, 05:27:52 am »
I just do not see a spiral head in my future for this machine. I am going to use it as the first pass machine in dressing out rough lumber after that it goes to the three sided planer.

My next big thing is getting the belting in order. Looking now on line for flat belts and an engine to drive it.

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Re: Old single sided planer rebuild
« Reply #39 on: October 26, 2017, 05:54:08 am »


Got her all rebuilt . Just waiting for a new engine . Should have that today and a couple of new v pulleys .

Will, most likely move her by floating dock to the sawmill site in the next few weeks before the weather gets too cold .

My plan is to do a test run in front of my workshop before the move to be sure everything works . Will try to get a small video and post that.

Overall very pleased with this project . Have what I think is a good old tool. Saved it from the scrap heap . Total money invested about 1500.00 . Most of that was for the new engine .


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