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Restoring an old Belsaw edger from the swamps of Florida.

Started by Kbeitz, August 18, 2017, 04:17:06 AM

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bucknwfl

Kevin, that is Looking good.  I knew it would not take you long

Thanks

Buck
If it was easy everybody would be doing it

Alligator

Your feed rollers are powered off your saw mandrel with a short belt/chain that turns the flat belt idler pulley, that pulls the flat belt from the bottom side giving the flat belt an opposite rotation, making the feed rollers turn the correct direction.

I don't know if that made sense.



Sorry I missed the full belt path on the first image
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Has this been mentioned yet?

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Bob_T

Quote from: Kbeitz on August 19, 2017, 09:39:08 AM
I was going to replace the flange bearing but it look like a special size so I repaired it.
It's a good thing I can weld cast iron.


I've had reasonably good luck welding cast iron by welding very short beads and peening the weld as it cools.  No preheat or extended cooling period.  Curious what  method and rod you use?   Thanks.
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Kbeitz

Quote from: Bob_T on August 20, 2017, 01:22:42 PM
Quote from: Kbeitz on August 19, 2017, 09:39:08 AM
I was going to replace the flange bearing but it look like a special size so I repaired it.
It's a good thing I can weld cast iron.


I've had reasonably good luck welding cast iron by welding very short beads and peening the weld as it cools.  No preheat or extended cooling period.  Curious what  method and rod you use?   Thanks.

I use a nickle rod called Nicad. Then I use a air needle scaler to do my peening.
Also when welding cast if it's not broke all the way off I do so before welding
it back on. I use no preheat. I got lucky and bought 500lbs of nickle rods 20-30
years ago form the junkyard for $100.00. I only have around 90lbs left. They still
work great.
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Kbeitz

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Kbeitz

I'm thinking that it might have been easier to make a new top cover than to
repair this one. But what fun is that ?

Anyone know what this little hook is for ? It doesn't do anything.



 



 

And what goes in the collar holes ? One is a square hole.



 

Paintings done.



  

 

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Quote from: bucknwfl on August 19, 2017, 03:05:05 PM
Kevin, that is Looking good.  I knew it would not take you long

Thanks

Buck

So... buck... Whats the story behind this old machine ?
How did it end up under the logs ?
Every old machine has a story to tell.
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Kbeitz

Quote from: Crusarius on August 21, 2017, 01:58:39 PM
that hook looks like it made be a lid stay?

That was my thought if it had something to hook into...
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Slingshot


That little "hook' is not a hook....it is an anti-kickback point that is supposed
to pivot on the shaft and ride on top of the board to keep it from being
kicked back into your belly. I think some of the machines had more than one.
here is a picture of the one I had, Only one kick-back finger. shown in the upper right in the center of the shaft below the cover... I posted pictures on the other thread of this edger that I bought new old stock, never used it and sold it to a guy last year in Nashville. He got it running using an 8hp Honda. Says it worked good.



 

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  I don't remember if the anti-kickback finger pivoted on the shaft or was stationary on the shaft with a lock screw and pivoted with the shaft.



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Kbeitz

Sure make sense. I think i copy it and make a few more.

Thanks for the info.
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whitepine2

Quote from: Kbeitz on August 21, 2017, 06:38:53 PM
Sure make sense. I think i copy it and make a few more.

Thanks for the info.
Yes should have two or three,also be careful of that big roll it likes to mash fingers ya gotta pay attention to it.

Kbeitz

Quote from: whitepine2 on August 21, 2017, 08:48:39 PM
Quote from: Kbeitz on August 21, 2017, 06:38:53 PM
Sure make sense. I think i copy it and make a few more.

Thanks for the info.
Yes should have two or three,also be careful of that big roll it likes to mash fingers ya gotta pay attention to it.

Thanks for the warning... I'm going to build two more sets of feed rollers one at each end.
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So... buck... Whats the story behind this old machine ?
How did it end up under the logs ?
Every old machine has a story to tell.
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So far the only information I have been able to dig up is that a older gentleman was operating a wood miser band mill. People said it had been at least 15 years since he passed away. He was cutting mostly cedar. He died they sold the mill and pushed all the logs into a fence row. A friend recently bought the property and gave us all the old cedar to help clean up the property  the logs are all heart wood and mostly small. We uncovered the saw in the middle of one of the piles

Thanks

Buck
If it was easy everybody would be doing it

Kbeitz

It looks like it was in the rain for 15 years.

Thanks.

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Making some new drive sprockets. The teeth was gone on the old ones.



 



 
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Kbeitz

I'm doing a lot of mods to this edger even before I motorize it.
I found out it did matter how hard you pushed a board you could
not get it to go under the rollers even with them turning. There had
to be a way to set the gap in the rollers so you could get a board
started and then it would get pulled through. I used a scissor jack
to raise the rollers. It works great.



 



 

Sprockets are done...



 



 



 

I added another roller...



 



 
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takin' a turd and turning it into a machine... good job
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Kbeitz

I read that the engine need to be mounted above the edger so that it turns the right way.
I did not want to do that so I'm making a jack-shaft.



 



 




 
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