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Author Topic: New to me mill and a question about bandmill guides and bearings  (Read 794 times)

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Offline TKehl

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So I traded for this mill yesterday.   8)





I think it is a "Mister Sawmill" sawmill, but haven't found any identifiers yet.  Missing the lube tank and the bearings on the guides are shot, but runs good and seems straight. 

1.  Can anyone confirm it is a Mister Sawmill mill?  Looks a lot like their older model 22 in shape and color (bottom of this page).  http://www.mistersawmill.com/model-22.html
2.  Any tips on the guide bearings.  Should I go stock?  Are there upgrades that will fit with little to no fuss?  I've heard good things about Cook's guides, but never paid TOO much attention to all that bandmill stuff until now.  Am I overthinking this?  (I'm very good at overthinking things.   :D)
3.  Can anyone point me to a tutorial or video on how to set up the guides?  No manual with the mill.   ::)

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Re: New to me mill and a question about bandmill guides and bearings
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2017, 06:55:56 pm »
Looks like a Cooks kit would fit for your guides
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Re: New to me mill and a question about bandmill guides and bearings
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2017, 07:14:24 pm »
I believe MO has restrictions on how much skidding and sawing toddlers can be forced to do. Starting 'em a bit young, eh, TKehl?

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Re: New to me mill and a question about bandmill guides and bearings
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2017, 08:57:11 pm »
Getting your kid starting sawing young - he's already pushing the head with one hand. ;D Wish I had started younger.
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Re: New to me mill and a question about bandmill guides and bearings
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2017, 11:57:12 pm »
He seems to like it.  Tried pulling him away a couple time.  No dice, he kept going back to the mill.   ;)

The only thing that pulled him away was climbing up in the skid steer with the girls.  Had to peel him off the seat for dinner.   :D

Of course, the girls favorite play place is currently the back of my flatbed.  Mostly because neither of their little brothers can climb it yet.   ;)  I'll come home and there will be little ponies and stuffed animals all lined up back there.  Have to double check before I drive it anywhere.
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Re: New to me mill and a question about bandmill guides and bearings
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2017, 10:09:26 pm »
cooks have a great tutorial on youtube on how to set up the guide bearings. other good sawmill stuff there too.  jg
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Re: New to me mill and a question about bandmill guides and bearings
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2017, 08:21:23 am »
Appreciate the info!  Will have to check out the videos.

Looked over Cooks guides this weekend and can see why they are so adaptable. 

Also, I now think the mill is homemade.  Well done, but lot's of little things jumping out at me. 
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Re: New to me mill and a question about bandmill guides and bearings
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2017, 11:07:59 pm »
I went ahead and replaced the guide bearings with standard sealed ball bearings.  Figured it would be the cheap and easy solution.  It was easy, but was less cheap than expected.   ::)  After digging in my stash for a few extra washers to get the spacing right, I was off to the races!

The "log" was choosen due to it's exceptional qualities of being nearby, light to carry, and cedar so it'd be easy cutting. 



Success!  ...followed by abject failure... immediately after the first cut.   :D




I think this will be an easy fix, but had family obligations this evening.  I think the collar in the last pictures was not snugged up and allowed the shaft and wheel to slide forward.  Hoping to get it back together tomorrow. 
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Re: New to me mill and a question about bandmill guides and bearings
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2017, 12:42:10 am »
Should be an easy fix. It looks to me like it is one of those collars that has the set screw and if I'm not mistaken, there is another non-threaded hole that you can use to turn the collar with a punch and hammer before locking with the set screw.   I've seen those collars fail several times and it was always because they weren't properly locked. You will be able to tell if it wasn't locked properly because there won't be any punch marks in the non-threaded hole.
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Re: New to me mill and a question about bandmill guides and bearings
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2017, 05:35:08 am »
I think the best collars are the split ones. They never come loose
and you can put them on a shaft without removing things.
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Re: New to me mill and a question about bandmill guides and bearings
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2017, 11:06:41 am »
Is there such a thing as a split-collar on a pillow block bearing?  I'm confused  ???.
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Re: New to me mill and a question about bandmill guides and bearings
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2017, 11:18:31 am »
 

  If there's room you could put a split collar beside a pillow block to keep it from sliding, those set screws don't always hold.  Steve
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Re: New to me mill and a question about bandmill guides and bearings
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2017, 12:30:55 pm »
Yes you can buy crown bearings with split collars for pillow block bearings.

 

 



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