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Offline KamHillbilly

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build up in gullets on blade
« on: August 02, 2017, 06:44:46 pm »
I've been sawing some cedar with the woodmizer blades that came with my homemade band mill I purchased . I have noticed a build up of strands of wood fibers in the gullet of blade , possible wrong blades for the soft cedar , don't think I'm forcing blade through wood too fast its a manual mill .I didn't notice this with the black ash , spruce and birch I cut .All input is appreciated , tried to post picture as soon as I figure it out I will post http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/14101/blade1.JPG
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Re: build up in gullets on blade
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2017, 08:19:47 pm »
Looks like you need more lube.
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Re: build up in gullets on blade
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2017, 09:13:04 pm »
It looks like a dull blade to me.

Was it a new, or resharpened blade? How long have you been running it.

Cedar should cut fine with just about any blade that Woodmizer offers, but they need to be sharp.

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Re: build up in gullets on blade
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2017, 09:28:18 pm »
It looks like a dull blade to me.

Was it a new, or resharpened blade? How long have you been running it.

Cedar should cut fine with just about any blade that Woodmizer offers, but they need to be sharp.

New blade ran about 15 - 8' logs with it averaging 10 - 12" diameter was running back after cut wasn't paying attention caught a branch stub popped blade off  that's when I noticed it

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Re: build up in gullets on blade
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2017, 05:30:20 am »
For sure a dull blade and a lack of lube.

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Re: build up in gullets on blade
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2017, 06:09:19 am »
I cut a fair amount of cedar and don't run any lube at all. My blades stay clean. If I have a blade that needs cleaning I sometimes put it on mill and cut a cedar log and it cleans it up.
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Re: build up in gullets on blade
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2017, 02:59:33 pm »
I run a dry blade sometimes cutting White Fir, or even Juniper. But once in a while you hit a log that wants to gum up the works.
After 15 logs, and throwing the blade off...that blade's dull.
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Re: build up in gullets on blade
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2017, 08:14:53 pm »
Kambilly, sometimes cedar just wants to string. You got some used bands from the original owner perhaps he just sharpened the face of the tooth and not the gullet. A ground gullet with sharp edges tends to cut the strings. Frank C.
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Re: build up in gullets on blade
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2017, 06:01:50 am »
Thanks I am looking for new blades to try anysuggestions mostly saw spruce, pine , tamarack some birch and poplar . My mill is powered by a 20hp Honda with a 167" band and is manual feed the local woodmizer dealer wants me to buy 15 blades at a time I don't mind spending a little more per blade to buy smaller lots until I find out what blade works best for my uses (as this is just a hobby ). I am in Canada but have a ship to address in the US
I had rented a band mill 22years ago to cut my lumber for my house and shop now I  am having a great time pulling logs off my property and watching my lumber piles grow

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Re: build up in gullets on blade
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2017, 06:55:48 am »
Look at Kasco blades too. A lot cheaper then WM blades. Yes on ordering large lots of 15 blades. :(

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Re: build up in gullets on blade
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2017, 07:52:00 am »
Thanks I noticed this morning that Lenox wood master GT BLADES have a deal on  plus free shipping on orders over $100 anyone have experience with these . I had a price on Kasco blades in Canada from their rep but shipping was unreal crazy made it not even worth looking into unless I buy from Kasco US and have them shipped to American address so much for supporting local.
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Re: build up in gullets on blade
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2017, 10:19:30 am »
I had a guy bring a batch of blades for sharpening and one looked just like yours did.  It was dull as dull could be.  He was trying to saw larch/tamarack with it.  After a sharp all was well.  I had to wire brush the blade before I could set or sharpen.

I've used Lenox blades and they aren't the worst in my opinion.  Kasco is better though.
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Re: build up in gullets on blade
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2017, 02:10:18 pm »
Thanks , I'm going to check the US Kasco site and see how prices and shipping differ from the Canadian site
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Re: build up in gullets on blade
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2017, 10:30:51 pm »
By all means, check the prices on line but call them and ask about the price... and tell them you are a FF member and appreciate their sponsorship.  The blade price will improve.
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Re: build up in gullets on blade
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2017, 01:30:30 am »
Definitely a dull blade. Cedar is very abrasive, run lots of water to keep the blade from heating up. The Kasco dealer here in BC does not charge shipping.
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Re: build up in gullets on blade
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2017, 09:09:59 am »
Definitely a dull blade. Cedar is very abrasive, run lots of water to keep the blade from heating up. The Kasco dealer here in BC does not charge shipping.
When I first got the mill I requested a quote from Kasco  came home one day and to my surprise there my daughter said a salesman was here it was a salesman from Kasco in Winnipeg left a price on his card .Of course I have lost his card so I sent another request got an email from salesperson from industrial bandsaw services  in Toronto area price was quite a bit higher and shipping was $100 for a lot of 10 blades
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Re: build up in gullets on blade
« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2017, 08:36:57 pm »
I saw a lot of dry cedar and use Wm 10 and 4 degree, both work well as long as I use a lot of lube.

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Re: build up in gullets on blade
« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2017, 09:16:50 pm »
Hopefully Monday have some time to saw try more lube and new blade see what happens. If there any others reading from Ontario where are you ordering your blades from ?
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Re: build up in gullets on blade
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2017, 06:48:04 am »
I order my blades from Wood-mizer . I believe you have a dealer in T-Bay . Don't they carry blades ? scouter Joe

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Re: build up in gullets on blade
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2017, 10:48:05 am »
I found a Kasco dealer in Ontario and hope to order some blades next week.  Not sure about the rules regarding sponsorship... sent you a pm with their contact info