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Cooks AC36 production numbers?
« on: July 28, 2017, 10:03:56 pm »
Anyone running one? Will be sawing ties and grade. Before anyone asks I do know how to run a bandmill, I currently work full time running a Baker Dominator sawing 25-30mbf a wk. Thanks
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Re: Cooks AC36 production numbers?
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2017, 11:48:50 pm »
These guys like the ac 36 so much they got two...either that or theyre so slow that they need two to tango lol





I like the looks of the AC-36, I really do...whats your take on the Baker? 



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Re: Cooks AC36 production numbers?
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2017, 07:34:11 am »
Yeah, those mills look slow and those Amish guys look lazy. ;D
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Re: Cooks AC36 production numbers?
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2017, 08:41:42 am »
Amish or Mennonite?
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Re: Cooks AC36 production numbers?
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2017, 08:53:35 am »
   I'd guess Mennonite from the equipment used like the skid steer. That is one busy helper keeping two mills loaded with logs and removing all the slabs and flitches as they come through. And he doesn't look like he's even in a hurry just steady.
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Re: Cooks AC36 production numbers?
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2017, 09:45:30 am »
Anyone notice that video is sped up just a little like 25%. The noise of the chainsaw gave it away.

4x4, there are things that I like about the Baker like the setworks,  right side log squaring (opposite of WM), straight up and down backstops, 12.5 gpm hyd, etc.

The negatives are ball screw up and down spindles, nice and accurate but very expensive when they go out ( like $1500), rubber timing belts thet run the up down that have a tendency to break out of nowhere letting one side or the whole head drop, often ruining the aforementioned ball screws.
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Re: Cooks AC36 production numbers?
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2017, 12:13:04 am »
Amish.  Mennonites don't necessarily have beards.  I worked with many a Mennonite and a few Amish.  The equipment used depends on their church.  One of the largest mills in the area is Amish owned.  Big trucks, electric mill, just like all the Englishers. 

I also think the video is sped up.  A little too jerky.
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Re: Cooks AC36 production numbers?
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2017, 02:37:12 pm »
Ron,

   Good point. I have a young Amish farrier who does my mule's toenails. They use electricity, indoor plumbing and even hunt. This surprised me as I thought they were opposed to firearms but I have since learned many hunt and harvesting deer is just another work project for them.
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Re: Cooks AC36 production numbers?
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2017, 08:02:48 pm »
these mills will run just like the rest of them, maybe even better,, it does seem to me that with each manufacturer they just have different fingerprints, if this makes any sense,, I mean some orange will run flawless while others struggle with a multitude of issues, same with the blue bakers, and so on.  Log quality  and supply determine so much in regards to production, not even counting the material handling of the by products, so, once again a piece of equipment is just a bit of a gamble.  JMO>
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Re: Cooks AC36 production numbers?
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2017, 09:31:34 pm »
That is just exactly how I run mine, just not hardly that fast.  I can't help you with production numbers, as I only work by myself anymore, since #2 son got a job he could actually make some money at.  Did you notice that the guys in the video had warped the gooseneck that the hydraulic, and control lines run in.  There are flow controls on the different functions to vary their speed.  I have mine set quite a bit slower than they do. The drag back arms on that machine are different than mine as well, guess they have changed a few things in the last 10 years or so.  They are good solid machines, I doubt you could wear out the mill itself.  I personally don't like the 62 horse perkins motor..had trouble out of it and its parts are expensive to replace.  The setworks on mine are problematic as well.  And as far as I know Cooks don't have a route to tune up their machines the way Woodmizer does.  That would be nice.  All in all though, I guess I still like my backwards mill.   ;) Banjo
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Re: Cooks AC36 production numbers?
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2017, 10:33:12 pm »
Ron,

   Good point. I have a young Amish farrier who does my mule's toenails. They use electricity, indoor plumbing and even hunt. This surprised me as I thought they were opposed to firearms but I have since learned many hunt and harvesting deer is just another work project for them.

In my area the Amish learn to shoot real young.I seen them shooting a 12 ga. better that most grown ups.
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Re: Cooks AC36 production numbers?
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2017, 09:08:50 pm »
Banjo, what kind of setworks problems were you having? Do you remember any sort of number while you were sawing "big time";).
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« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2017, 09:15:06 pm »
The main reason I ask is I am not impressed with woodmizer. The customer service is great but I have had to call them too DanG often with  freaking electrical problems. Electric feed, electric up/down, electric hyd. pump, etc. Theres a reason you don't see all that crap on circle mills, it ain't cut out for sawmills.
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« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2017, 09:18:23 pm »
Banjo, what kind of setworks problems were you having? Do you remember any sort of number while you were sawing "big time" ;) .



I went and visited a forum member who had an ac36 and he said that the difference in hyd temperature from when it was cold to when it got warm would mess with the set...I'm really liking the looks of the new WM LX450 as soon as they make one with all regular dependable hydraulics, a 55hp yanmar diesel or bigger diesel, accuset two on a pedestal so you can move all around like the super 70, cant hold down clamps, hydraulic drive roller toeboards and an offbearing conveyor, I'll be trading in the ole 40
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Re: Cooks AC36 production numbers?
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2017, 09:26:48 pm »
Are they using a hyd. motor or cylinders?
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« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2017, 09:28:34 pm »
I kinda like the look of that mill too, but I'm too *pithed at wm to buy one.
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« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2017, 09:48:01 pm »

I kinda like the look of that mill too, but I'm too *pithed at wm to buy one.



I'm not sure what its got.. but I've been really impressed with my wmz it's not had an easy life I can get pretty rammynjammy sometimes and it just loves it.  I do know that when I took it easy with it it was never happy, so maybe try to take it less easy on your wmz :D .  I been on the fence between wmz and baker for my next mill (not gonna
[size=78%]be anytime soon but I'm always thinking about it) and I'm kinda settling in on WMz..the engineering is there, and the customer support is there...could use some better parts or at least an option for higher quality like napa gives you. Baker makes some decent stuff but as for support they kinda just left me in the dark.  Their manual said one thing, and when I called with questions I got different wrong answers that made my problems much worse and.l now the guy who straightened me out just quit!  [/size][/font]
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« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2017, 10:07:10 pm »
If you call Baker the only guy to talk to is Brad.
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« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2017, 10:30:17 pm »
I'll keep that in mind thanks I think I had called during amateur hour lol
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Re: Cooks AC36 production numbers?
« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2017, 10:47:18 am »
Problem with set works is that it blinks and it loses its settings.  It started doing that right after i got it.  Cooks had a man working for them at the time that tried to help me figure out what the problem was but he retired or quit before we got it worked out.  I have just used the scale since then.  It would be nice to have the set works actually work ..especially when some body asks for some off the wall dimensions.   It would be helpful if Cooks had a service route like Woodmizer has.  My problem may be a ground somewhere,  but i have checked everything i know to check.  I am retiring from the state job i am presently working in 8 months and i hope to fig a little deeper into the problem then.  The maintaince guy where my # 2 son works is pretty sharp on electrial issues and has shown interest in helping me with it.  I bought this mill new, and for the money spent i sm very disappointed with the set works.  I would not have said anything about it if I had not given Cooks a chance to fix it.  Thats my take on it.  Banjo
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