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Started by Ditchdoc, July 25, 2017, 04:49:45 PM

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fishfighter

Nice equipment trailer. You still could add a arch and build it to were you can unbolt it. The way your trailer it built, that would be easy and 10x more easy to load logs from the back. ;D

Kbeitz

I made my arch unboltable. Two large bolts and it's off.



 

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Crusarius

Winch rope frays very easily when rubbing on rocks or sharp objects. The best reason to have it is no kinetic energy. So when it snaps is usually just drops to the ground.

It is required for many competitions because of the improved safety factor over steel cable.

Ditchdoc

Anyone here using a Warn 8274 on a trailer? If so how did you mount it? Hope to look at if Tue. Think it was manufactured in 1976.

Kbeitz

I have a Warn . I put class 3 hitches on everything and the winch is in a carrier. I use fork lift plugins .



 
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WranglerSS

I made a receiver mount for my Warn M8000 winch. My gooseneck trailer has a 2" receiver welded on the front of the bed so for parbuckling I use a snachblock on the opposite side to redirect the line.

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Ditchdoc

The 8274 mounts vertically. Pic of one:



has to mount on something like this:



Could weld a 2" tube to the bottom of the mount or see if it would bolt to a Curt or DrawTite receiver mount.
Another consideration is weight, thing weighs ~130#.


WranglerSS

The 8274 Warns are heavy but by far the fastest winch made.
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Magicman

I had one on the front of a '68 Bronco, and it was bullet proof.  I do not recall that it was that heavy because I could pick it up.
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Kbeitz

I have no idea how much my 16,500 with the carrier weights.
I can pick it up but I would not want to have to carry it to far.
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mart

Here's a few pictures from back before I had a sawmill. I'm loading up some birch logs for a trip to a sawyer.  And parbuckling is the correct term. I have since fabricated better ramps for the purpose and still use the four wheeler for a power source.



 



 



 



 
I was young and dumb once. I got over being young a long time ago.

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Quebecnewf


You can par buckle just about anything . Like a solar kiln that blew over in a storm

Quebecnewf

Kbeitz

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OffGrid973

Sounds like a new competition brewing, prizes given out at the next pig roast. 

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Darrel

I parbuckled logs onto the back of my '49 GMC truck before I knew it was called parbuckling.  If asked I would have told you a parbuckle was a belt buckle worn by a golfer. Shirley that must be worth something elaborate or not.
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Kbeitz

Many years ago I parbuckled a VW  in to the back of my trailer
so I could take it to the junkyard.
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Crusarius

Wait! you took something to the junkyard?

All of my hopes and dreams have been crushed.

Nah J/k....

Darrel

It's ok Crusarius, he was young and foolish back then.  ;D
1992 LT40HD

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Crusarius

few, thank goodness :) I am glad he grew out of that.

outpost22

Quote from: Crusarius on August 11, 2017, 12:19:25 PM
Winch rope frays very easily when rubbing on rocks or sharp objects. The best reason to have it is no kinetic energy. So when it snaps is usually just drops to the ground.

It is required for many competitions because of the improved safety factor over steel cable.

So true.  In areas I can't get my tractor, I can't count how many times my Warn 8000 with steel cable has dragged logs over rocks that a braided rope would not hold up to.   As with all our equipment, caution is the word.   Rope would be nice for the weight savings, but cable durability is more important to me.  Now if I only used it at the beach...
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Kbeitz

Not all of it... I kept the bottom half...



 
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Crusarius

Quote from: outpost22 on September 29, 2017, 10:46:08 AM
Quote from: Crusarius on August 11, 2017, 12:19:25 PM
Winch rope frays very easily when rubbing on rocks or sharp objects. The best reason to have it is no kinetic energy. So when it snaps is usually just drops to the ground.

It is required for many competitions because of the improved safety factor over steel cable.

So true.  In areas I can't get my tractor, I can't count how many times my Warn 8000 with steel cable has dragged logs over rocks that a braided rope would not hold up to.   As with all our equipment, caution is the word.   Rope would be nice for the weight savings, but cable durability is more important to me.  Now if I only used it at the beach...

Rope also acts as an insulator retaining the heat around the drum. The steel is so much better for heat dissipation.

drobertson

I learned it by an ole timer,, green saplings, not(switches) of course,,he notched them to hold from sliding during the sag portion, but this was in the timber back then, in fact we did a few just the same,,we liked the cable for the rolling part, and a chain for the  anchor point. Big ends will walk ahead, so have a hook on the ready, cable allows for nice re-adjusting, for straighter loads, back stops are important, and as an old boss use to say, at all cost, try to avoid the lazy man's load,, may be an old saying,,but after a few mis haps, I soon learned the reason,, 
I need to add, I since the early days, added some heavy wall piping, (heavy wall) , to my tools,,but now, I can't lift them, Length has its advantages, and disadvantages,,short is good for a limited loading area, while the longer ones help when going higher.  It works, has for years, not saying it's always easy.
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SineWave

Quote from: Crusarius on September 29, 2017, 07:46:50 AM
Wait! you took something to the junkyard?

All of my hopes and dreams have been crushed.

:D :D :D

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