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Author Topic: if i buy( Saw Mill ez board walk 40 is this the best mill at $8000 range?  (Read 2655 times)

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to tmarch i was thinking of getting a bobcat to drag the logs from the woods,and lift the logs on the mill,and lumber,to pallets,and stack. with forks on the bobcat.

I know a lot of folks here don't like skidloaders, but I've been a daily operator for 26 years and counting, and I love the versatility of mine.  I can make that machine stand up on 2 wheels and dance.  I use mine with forks to move logs and slabs around, as well as loading big logs onto the mill, and it does a great job. 

I wouldn't hesitate to recommend a bobcat with forks, provided you size your skidloader purchase to handle the weight of the logs you plan on moving.  My New Holland is rated to "lift" 2500 lbs., but I have a weight kit on it, and it easily moves 3500 lb. machines with forks.  I think it would handle a 4000 lb. log without a problem, provided I don't try to lift it 10' in the air.  A foot off the ground is all I need.
     




 About the only downside to a skid loader is they tear up the log yard, no machine can get around better.  Steve
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yes sir woodworker9 i called about a new tractor that can lift 2500 lbs a new kubota they want almost $ 40,000 thats about what i want to spend on my house build:)

Good gear is never cheap.  Used ones are far less.  Pretty good machines around here that aren't beat to crap or slapped out for around $10K.  You can do better, but you might end up with a mechanical nightmare.  I don't drink or smoke, so I save my money and spend it on quality tools, because I earn my living with them. 

If you're mechanically inclined, plenty of worn out machines waiting on a 2nd chance......
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Mahindra makes a heavy duty tractor that has lots of lift with the loaders
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My brother has a old case skid steer, I find the biggest down side is you can't load or move something with a chain by yourself.

The only time it is safe or possible to get out of the skid steer is when the bucket is on the ground which makes it impossible to hook and unhook a chain.

I will add that generally a tractor will lift a lot more with the rear 3 point hitch than a front loader, or just having a set of forks on the rear of a 2 wd tractor will be a lot less costly.

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a video to see:)
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22 ton log splitter:)

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another video to see:)

22 ton log splitter:)

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Just thinking out loud, but I think an old tractor, log arch, and either hydraulic arms on the mill or a bit of earthworks to use a natural slope with a log deck would overall be cheaper than a skid steer.  Can't say more versatile because they each have their pluses, but 3 point equipment is generally cheaper and more plentiful than skid steer attachments.
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i dont know much about tractors,but if the right deal came along i may bite also they can tip over on you. a bob cat i can do my own dirt work and extra income also. with a bob cat you can make your saw mill stage maybe high ground on one side and low on the other so you could just roll the logs on the mill, take off the lumber on the other side. using forks with the logs the lumber,and pallets.
22 ton log splitter:)

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I was recently given some white oak. One of the logs was about 40" in diameter and 12' long. I calculated that it weighed about 7000 lbs. Point is that you're going to want to buy the biggest machine you can afford. I would love to own a wheel loader to handle big stuff. Another option would be to buy a decent size track excavator with a thumb on it. A excavator is a very versatile machine capable of doing a lot of things. I own small ones . The small excavator I own only weighs about 7000 lbs but enabled me to drag that 7000 lb log off my trailer.
As far as the mills go. I like the look of the EZ boardwalk but I'm thinking about buying a swingblade mill because it's much faster at cutting dimensional lumber.

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i get what you thinking, but is there frame in the way of moving the timber in and out?
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I would seriously consider this swingblade mill if I was mostly stationary. It's supposed to be portable but I think it might take about 1 hour to breakdown and loadup plus it's not lightweight.

Then you have the Turbosaw, the Peterson, and the Lucas. All are not cheap but they can saw a lot of dimensional lumber in a day, many times what a bandsaw can saw.
I recently came across this one too.
https://goodwoodmills.com.au/

i get what you thinking, but is there frame in the way of moving the timber in and out?

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many times what a bandsaw can saw.
That would be very debatable. 
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I am pretty sure that each mill has its place to shine.

I was watching the video for d and L and I can see a place or 2 that a band mill could do better. Like cutting those ''house logs''. 3 passes would cut them out on a bandmill, but it took 2 passes per side on the swing blade. A band mill is limited by size  but  so are circle mills to an extent.

How much lumber a mill of any kind can cut depends greatly on the skill of the operator.

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 One of my first customers told me I cut about 3 times faster than a swing mill in small pine logs so who knows.  Steve
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Seems to me that the drawback of the bandsaw is that it doesn't edge the wood and each time you attempt to flip the cut slab or cant on it's side to edge  you have to level it front to back. Plus the flipping takes time and separate hydraulic mechanism which adds cost and complexity. Not only that but I don't care what anyone says, a bandsaw will be more likely to create a wavy cut than a ridged circular blade. I don't own either. I'm just saying.

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Buy you one. use it a while and you will wish you had the other too so life would be complete.  ;D :D :o ::) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) ;D :D :) :) :) :).

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2013 LT40SHE25 and Riehl edger,  WM 94 LT40 hd E15. Cut my sawing ''teeth'' on an EZ Boardwalk
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Don't get phylosophical with me. you will loose me for sure.
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As has been mentioned, each of us are "experts" in our own back yards.  I have been sawing with my bandmill for 15 years and I don't produce "wavy" lumber.  ;)

I watched FF member Meadows Miller saw the 30" top end Red Oak log featured in this topic:  LINK
He was sawing with a Lucas sawmill and was getting one 1X6, etc. with each pass and had to change his sweaty shirt before finishing.  After canting, I would have been getting 3 with each pass. 
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I reckon you would have been sitting and sawing too.

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Yup, wearing out sawmill seats.

I don't care what anyone says, a bandsaw will be more likely to create a wavy cut than a ridged circular blade.

I would agree with that being a correct statement.  Poor sawmill alignment, inexperienced "sawyers", and dull or improper blades will produce wavy lumber.
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Heck just get one of each and you will have all the bases covered.  ;D
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