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Offline RKONeilJr

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Kioti tractors
« on: June 19, 2017, 04:30:39 pm »
Howdy all,
                I am looking for some Pros & Cons on the Kioti tractors, especially set up for forestry work.
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Re: Kioti tractors
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2017, 07:11:45 pm »
I don't have experience with Kioti's.  However I read a lot of positive reviews on another forum about there abilities.

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Re: Kioti tractors
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2017, 08:36:16 pm »
The ignition switches are not the most waterproof, but if kept out of the elements with a bit of penetrating fluid they work as they should. Overall good tractors in my opinion however.

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Re: Kioti tractors
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2017, 08:38:14 pm »
The only Kioti tractor with a forestry package that I ever saw was kinda on the small size. I have a 40hp that I hauled out some big pine with. I don't see how the one I saw could do it. But depends on what you are going to do with it. On your own land? Going to log for others? I have worked a tractor on my land since '93. I am very fussy with my trails and how I cut the brush. Yes,it all takes longer,but any improvement I make to my land,is mine to enjoy.
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Re: Kioti tractors
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2017, 09:38:59 pm »
...especially set up for forestry work.......
Here are some photos of my Mahindra 5520
51 hp
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the Farmi 3-point PTO winch can pull 11,000 pounds
 
 
the each rear fender has a flat spot
 
  
I tow the Honda Rancher into the woods when i know i have to go back and forth

 
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Re: Kioti tractors
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2017, 09:42:21 pm »
one thing i plan on adding is under belly protection.
first i will try using a plastic pickup bed liner. i can get one for under $50

if that does not work then 1/8 or 3/16 sheet steel.

want to stop branches from poking up into the undercarriage
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Re: Kioti tractors
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2017, 07:52:04 am »
a sheet of 3/8" or 1/2" HDPE works great. it may be more expensive but it is very smooth and slides over everything with no effort.
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Re: Kioti tractors
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2017, 06:36:48 pm »
Kioti tractors are agricultural tractors and are well capable of doing agricultural work and are allegedly improving with each successive model.
A Kioti tractor as a forestry machine - simple reply - no, there other machines made by other manufacturers for forestry work.

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Re: Kioti tractors
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2017, 08:55:17 pm »
I'd have to disagree with Riwaka. Properly set up, an ag tractor can work fairly well for forestry work. No, it's certainly not the match of dedicated forestry equipment, so if you are looking to maximize production in a commercial venture, it's probably no the best way to go. However, a tractor is far more flexible than dedicated forestry equipment, so if you need to do other things and can't justify multiple piece of equipment, it can be a great way to go. You just need to understand the limitations of your equipment (true no matter what your equipment is).

Kioti happens to be the tractor used by Payeur, a Canadian Company who sets up tractors for forestry work. Try this linkn for info on their Forester Tractor. Even if you don't buy one from them, it may give you some ideas.

I had a local fab shop who has done a number of these conversions make some mods on my tractor (normally, he works on bigger stiff than my 33HP New Holland TC33D). My tractor is definitely on the small end of what you'd want for Forestry work, but it suit my needs - and I figure if some people are using ATVs to get the job done, I can certainly do it with this. Added FOPS (falling object protection system), limb risers, and a belly pan. He did a great jb, designing in little features that I would not have even thought to ask for. I was on a budget at the time, so I may go back and add more in the future. Here's a picture of the tractor in "forestry mode" (log grapple on the front, logging winch on the back):




Here's a closer shot, but with other implements on:

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Re: Kioti tractors
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2017, 10:44:11 pm »
One thing about a tractor for small scale forestry work is they push, they pull, and have useful hydraulic systems that compliment things such as three point wood splitters, grapples, etc. At the end of the day you can still use it for a bunch of other jobs as well.

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Re: Kioti tractors
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2017, 08:19:14 am »
FF member woodmills1 has a Kioti with the forestry package

http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=48414
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Re: Kioti tractors
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2017, 11:27:41 am »
  Well for my part i love my kioti ck35 for my forestry needs and all around with some small modification like a belly pan, front grill, hard roof top, a good winch, two sets of good tire chains, made a front push blade for pushing logs and dirt...  a little beast when you know how to work with....
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

                                                                      

  

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Re: Kioti tractors
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2017, 02:43:32 pm »
http://payeur.com/en/the-forester/
These guys chose Kioti to outfit for forestry work so I guess the tractors must be half decent!
I've got a 2011 kioti DK40SE HST and its been pretty good, although I haven't done any serious skidding with it.  It does need protection underneath if you want to charge through or over brush as the hyd lines are exposed as are some of the foot control rods and levers.
For serious forestry work I think you want to start comparing weight per width of tractor.  I have mine set at 6' wide and  my atv trails are always to narrow.  My tractor ends up at about 5600lbs with the loader on and loaded rear tires.  For loader work I like to put on the 1000lb box blade and then its nice and stable.  I can push around 3000lb cars easily with that setup for example, and lift either end.

For cheaper heavy iron, Mahindra makes some real beasts, and if I bought again I'd probably go that way instead of the lighter more refined Kubota tractors.  You really have to compare spec to spec on tractors though, there's lots of 40hp tractors that are only just over half as heavy as mine, and mahindra had a 40hp tractor that weighed 1000lbs more...


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Re: Kioti tractors
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2017, 11:17:02 pm »
I have a DS4510 with a Farmi 851. I have 80 acres of spruce, fir, poplar and red maple. I sell a couple loads of saw logs a year and feed my Wood Mizer LT15. I also cut logs to do log building and post and beam projects.I maintain my woods roads with the FEL, a backhoe and box scraper, and mow a small field with a bush hog. It has 600+ hours, I change the fluids and do not run it when the temps are below zero and so far no issues. This tractor has been simply great and I plan on running it for a long time to come. I owned a kubota before and this is as good as that was.

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