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Woodland Mills tracking problems
« on: May 18, 2017, 08:37:29 am »
Anyone having tracking problems with the Woodland Mills HM126 mill? My tracking goes off just running the motor & not cutting any wood. I adjust the tracking the way it is supposed to be set up & after about 20 seconds of running the motor, the tracking will be way off. The blade moves backwards. I have done everything tech support has told me & nothing has worked. I am stumped by this & so is their tech support. I tore the tracking cover off & examined it & everything looks good. The welds are good & everything is tight. I have had problems with the tracking since I bought the mill & it has gotten a lot worse, now I can't even cut a log without ruining my guide rollers. So far I have had to replace a throttle cable, clutch, on & off switch, belts, rollers, & guides. Anyone with any ideas would be appreciated, as I am very frustrated & out of ideas. The only good news is it's still under warranty since it is not very old. Maybe they can swap it out, but until than I'm stuck & unable to do any milling.

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Re: Tracking problems
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2017, 09:38:41 am »
Wish I could help.
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Re: Tracking problems
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2017, 10:43:03 am »
Cooks has a very good video ,that could help you,it on youtube,go look....

Another vid...

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Re: Tracking problems
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2017, 12:07:07 pm »
Have you tried putting a different new bade on? If there is something wrong with the blade, you'll never get it to track.
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Re: Tracking problems
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2017, 12:16:58 pm »
Have tried several blades

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Re: Tracking problems
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2017, 01:10:45 pm »
Have watched the video several times before posting my problem.

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Re: Tracking problems
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2017, 01:46:57 pm »
 Instead of spinning the blade with the engine try turning by hand slowly while under full tension and watch it. Adjust accordingly.
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Re: Tracking problems
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2017, 01:55:22 pm »
That's way too much to go wrong with a new mill.  It's still under warranty - you need to be in good communication with the makers of that machine and get this straightened out.  It might be a lemon.  If your tracking goes off like you said I would think a bearing is faulty.

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Re: Tracking problems
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2017, 02:02:47 pm »
I start out spinning the wheel by hand & all is good. It's when the blade runs at speed is when the tracking goes off. It will go all the way back until it hits the guide rollers. I also think it is too many problems for a new mill. I talk with the techs at woodland mills daily & have sent videos. I also feel it could be a bad mill & a lemon. With everything being mass produced, it is a possibility.

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Re: Woodland Mills tracking problems
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2017, 02:27:05 pm »
I'm under the impression that Woodland Mills is a great manufacturer and are well in tune with the customer from reading alot of past posts.  There are lots of happy customers with these guys.  Judging from reviews and what I've read with comments I'm confident that Woodland Mills will rectify your situation.  Waiting a bit to get things straightened out can be frustrating when you're chomping at the bit but it will be all better in just a little while and you'll forget all about it.  :)
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Re: Woodland Mills tracking problems
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2017, 04:21:37 pm »
I would start checking the wheel bearing. On the tension adjuster, you have the new spring washers? Did you torque the tension adjustment to 25 FP's?

Do keep us updated. Really sorry you are having this problem, Own the same mill 2+ years. Woodland just sent me the replacement spring washers for free.

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Re: Woodland Mills tracking problems
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2017, 04:27:21 pm »
Replaced the bearings already. I'm running out of parts to replace. Woodland Mills sent me the new washers & they are already installed. I do torque them to 25 lbs & have used 2 torque ratchets, to rule out a bad ratchet. I will say the washers are a lot better than the old poly ones.

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Re: Woodland Mills tracking problems
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2017, 04:39:37 pm »
I'm still wondering about the blades. Far more likely to get a funky batch of blades than for something so mysteriously wrong with the mill you can't find it. A woodland mill is a simple machine compared to a car or tractor or something. Not something complicated enough that could be a "lemon".
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Re: Woodland Mills tracking problems
« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2017, 04:51:38 pm »
I have tried 2 different manufacturers blades. I bought a pack of 10 from Woodland Mills along with the sharpener when I bought the mill.  With all my problems I haven't had time to use the sharpener so I bought a 5 pack from another vendor.

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Re: Woodland Mills tracking problems
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2017, 05:24:30 pm »
Blades or belts... All track the same...

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Re: Woodland Mills tracking problems
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2017, 05:27:18 pm »
I notice he says 35 foot pounds in the video.


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Re: Woodland Mills tracking problems
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2017, 05:28:20 pm »
Southwood I've had the same mill as you for four year's the olny time I have trouble with tracking is when I change brands of blades.

Where do you live ? if your not to far away maybe I can have a look at it for you.

Like Jeff said it's a simpel machine and it has to be a simpel fix
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Re: Woodland Mills tracking problems
« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2017, 05:30:54 pm »
I would start by putting a long straight edge on the rim of each wheel
and see if they both line up with each other.
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Re: Woodland Mills tracking problems
« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2017, 05:39:53 pm »
After you check the wheels as Kbeitz suggested, check the bolts holding the engine down. Check the pulley on the engine.

You said it tracks when you turn by hand but gets progressively worse as the engine runs. Sounds like the engine or its pulley move in relation to the wheel it's driving.
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Re: Woodland Mills tracking problems
« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2017, 05:50:08 pm »
Sometimes things can be so simple they never occur to you. Back in 1985 we put in a new commercial cmc mill. For the next year we fought the problem of burning out one of the pillow bearings on the shaft we installed to drive the hydraulic pump. we did everything we could to align in, and every couple weeks burned up a a 100 dollar bearing. The light finally went on the last time it went out. When putting the shims back under the bearing for probably the 20 time, I noticed something. the shim stock was shorter than the bearing case and this type of bearing had a hollow base with a lip on the edges. Every time we torqued down the bearing, we warped the bearing housing, putting a bind on the bearing. I cut a new shim longer than the base and that bearing was still running when I left the mill in 2005.   

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