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WM 1998 Setworks
« on: May 08, 2017, 01:21:27 pm »
Of course this Setworks has be manufacture discontinued for many years and parts are no longer available.  My display died in 2010 and new displays were still available at that time so I replaced the old display.
 

 
 

 
Well, while I was sawing Saturday the display started showing gibberish and then went blank.  Setworks still works and still responds accurately to the 4 buttons but the display unit apparently is gone.  I unplugged/replugged and all of that stuff.

So what to do?  Maybe someone that has changed their Setworks to Accuset still has their old display or if not, my next move will be to upgrade mine to Accuset II.  I realize that it is inevitable that it will eventually happen, but ~$2500 is hard to spend if there is an alternative.
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Re: WM 1998 Setworks
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2017, 01:53:57 pm »
MM, open it up and give us a pic of the actual display.  It may be a common LCD display module that is cheap and easy to replace.
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2017, 05:24:45 pm »
I'm with GMM on that. Find a part number on the display and do an Internet search.

https://www.digikey.com/products/en/optoelectronics/display-modules-lcd-oled-character-and-numeric/99?k=LCD%20display

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Re: WM 1998 Setworks
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2017, 05:44:47 pm »
Thanks guys.  I may have a fish nibbling at my cricket already.  I should know this week.   ;D

Here is a LINK to the topic where I did the replacement in 2010.  Paul, the display is shown at the top of the first picture.
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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2017, 07:29:48 pm »
Hope you can reel him in...that display may be hard to find.  The white sticker on it probably has the manufacturer and part number.

If your fish throws the hook (sorry, I had to keep it going ::)), give me the dimensions of the board and the mounting hole spacing.  I may have a display that we could make work.
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Re: WM 1998 Setworks
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2017, 07:58:06 pm »
MM, I also have the old setworks. Mine currently has an encoder issue, it's either the encoder itself or the plug in on the back of the display (which I suspect it is). The new encoder and cable was almost $600, and while it's still available, it's kind of a hard pill to swallow, since the rest of the system is not supported. I still want to fix it, I just haven't had the time. I did get a kick out of your "fish nibbling at my cricket" statement, that has to be an "old saying"?
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Re: WM 1998 Setworks
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2017, 09:20:36 pm »
I replaced the encoder last year so this baby has no choice but to keep on working.  Not is not an option.   :-X
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Re: WM 1998 Setworks
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2017, 11:30:45 pm »
My setworks has always had some accuracy issues, that I was just finally getting resolved when this new problem reared it's head. Thus, I am somewhat hesitant to put any money into it, being that it wasn't working well in the first place.
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Re: WM 1998 Setworks
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2017, 09:16:31 am »
I have a '98 WM Setworks.  That would be of no use to me whatsoever.
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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2017, 09:24:59 am »
I know, and I guess that my response sounded sharp.  Please accept my apology.   :)
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« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2017, 09:54:20 am »
Following this. My display is also about to give up the ghost. Already replaced it once. Can't remember how much it was then.
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« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2017, 10:02:47 am »
I have another display on the way.  Well sorta.   ;D
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« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2017, 12:20:43 pm »
Does the display happen  to have a  2   on the front panel? :) 
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« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2017, 01:12:52 pm »
I wish, but with the FF there are rabbits in the hat sometime.   ;D
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« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2017, 04:35:04 pm »
You're gonna make us wait for the pics, aren't you?  You are a very bad man.
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« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2017, 09:50:45 pm »
Well, through all of this, one of three of us should end up with a working original Setworks :) We  could have just drew straws, the lucky man gets the other's components  ;D
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« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2017, 05:49:27 pm »
You're gonna make us wait for the pics, aren't you?  You are a very bad man.
  Yes, I am a bad man.   :)

Although the new display showed MD and not available from Wood-Mizer, I contacted Sparks and he did some investigating.  He found two displays in stock but not tested or packaged for sale.  Yup, after the necessary bench testing and packaging I received my new display today.
 

 
Out with the old and in with the new.
 

 
Yeah, I am back in business, but this is the last time for this Setworks.  Because of this topic, the other new display was also sold so there is nothing in stock to repair this unit again.  I was offered a removed Setworks which could be an option in the future, or not, because it could be gone by then.

Anyway, my Thanks to Sparks!
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« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2017, 06:31:36 pm »
The only thing I can make out on the back of the LCD is EDT 20-20033-2 Rev. C. It looks like there is a white sticker with more writing, but I can't read it.

There could be later but still compatible displays being made.

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« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2017, 08:28:51 pm »
I'm sure that Accuset 2 will be the next modification to go on this sawmill, but for now $100 was much easier to spend than $2500.   ;D
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« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2017, 10:03:23 pm »
I think I know where the display ended up but I won't be able to be sure until I get back from work this time.   ;)
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« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2017, 10:19:32 pm »
I'm sure that it is there Lee.   :)

I am just hoping that the display was my problem and not something else, but at least it is now working.  I will do whatever it takes to keep my sawmill running. 
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« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2017, 05:44:34 am »
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I will do whatever it takes to keep my sawmill running. 

Showing closeups of the front and back of those 2 printed circuit boards may help.

I found several 4x20 LCDs in a quick search but don't know if they are pin- or signal- compatible with yours.

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« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2017, 06:05:27 am »
It's good your up and running, Now back to work. :D :D :D :D 8) 8) ;)
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« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2017, 02:25:50 pm »
I'm sure that it is there Lee.   :)

It showed up yesterday afternoon but I didn't have any chance to install it. It will wait 'til I get home. The old one still works somewhat but has some moisture trapped in it and is all but impossible to read when the sun is shining on it. If the humidity is right and the sun isn't bright you would not know there was anything wrong with it. I may try to see if I can fix the old one and have the new as a backup.
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« Reply #26 on: May 20, 2017, 02:28:39 pm »
It sounds to me like there is dust and moisture between the display and the faceplate.  You may only need to remove the display and use some Windex and paper towel.
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« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2017, 02:45:07 pm »
Had moisture in my Accuset display many times and finally last March took it out and put it on the mantle over the weekend,  which cleared it up.  We had the wood stove going so it was a very dry place.  The moisture in the display problem hasn't come back yet.

I also have times when the display is barely visible in direct sunlight.  When this happens I by wipe the display with a drop of ATF.   Originally once I had skin so soft on my hands (I was sawing with skeeters and use this as repellent) and was wiping the display in frustration and this made it much more visible.
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« Reply #28 on: May 20, 2017, 04:24:08 pm »
The Setworks display and the actual faceplate are about 1/8" apart so there is almost 20 years of accumulation between the two.  It would sorta be like the film that forms on the inside of your windshield plus the powdered sawdust.   :-\
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« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2017, 07:11:08 pm »
Had moisture in my Accuset display many times and finally last March took it out and put it on the mantle over the weekend,  which cleared it up.  We had the wood stove going so it was a very dry place.  The moisture in the display problem hasn't come back yet.

I also have times when the display is barely visible in direct sunlight.  When this happens I by wipe the display with a drop of ATF.   Originally once I had skin so soft on my hands (I was sawing with skeeters and use this as repellent) and was wiping the display in frustration and this made it much more visible.

I'll have to try the atf. Its got to be better than licking my finger and rubbing it on the display.  ;D
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« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2017, 07:17:50 pm »
No wonder it didn't work Dave.  You were licking the ATF off of your finger.   :o
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« Reply #31 on: May 22, 2017, 08:34:53 am »
I'm glad you got it going Lynn, and for not too much $ :).  If you'll send me the old display, I'll see if I can do anything with it.
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« Reply #32 on: May 22, 2017, 08:41:23 am »
Thanks Paul.  I know that I have it but shoot me your address again. 
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« Reply #33 on: June 11, 2017, 04:17:47 pm »
I am just hoping that the display was my problem and not something else, but at least it is now working.
I sawed two jobs this past week with no display issues, so for now the $100 decision seems to have been a good one.   :P   8)
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