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Offline Kingcha

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Building a new house
« on: April 26, 2017, 08:55:18 pm »
I finally got my mill ready for the season the other day but I am in the process of starting a house.   So milling ins on the back burner.

It's been almost 20 years since I built last and oh boy has it changed.    If the requirement to build a 1120 sq. ft. house in Michigan are an indication of the state of the country, We are in sad shape.     I consider myself a smart guy but they are making it almost impossible for a homeowner to build there own home.      I have in the past build 2 homes, nice solidly built homes.   But the requirements are nuts.

I am not actually doing much of the work on this house, I had planned on doing the insulation and most of the finish work but do to the regulations in the Energy Code I don't dare do the insulation so I have to hire that out.  That really doesn't bother me to much(as I wait for the bids) lol

The problem is I did not know about some of this and I am waiting for a (ResCheck) to make sure my house meets the Energy Code before I can even submit my building plans.   I am told I'll be lucky to get my permit within 2 weeks after that.   My problem is my Excavator/concrete guy can get in May but will be getting busy by June.   I wish I had know(my fault), I have everything else done.       I am going to make some call tomorrow and see if I can get a rush on the Rescheck so I can get my permit in by Friday.     
In 20 years at this rate I see more homeless people sadly
ok I think my rant is over

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Re: Building a new house
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2017, 09:17:21 pm »
No wonder NW Arkansas is one of the fastest growing area's in the nation.  Surplus of jobs, good schools, low cost of living, and NO BUILDING PERMITS REQUIRED other than a septic/plumbing permit outside of the cities. :)

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Re: Building a new house
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2017, 08:38:55 am »
Depends on what town,city you are in here in Maine. I had a guy that built my house,no inspection at all. I did need a permit,was $25 years ago. Now they do it by the square foot. Someone complained that a shed permit cost as much as a 4 bedroom house did. I know the contractor that built my house said in the town in came from an inspector would come by each day to check on him.
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Re: Building a new house
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2017, 12:33:20 pm »
It is the same way here in Wisconsin.  It used to be if you had a few thousand dollars and a place to build you could build a place to live and add on to it/finish it as you had more money or the family grew.  All the new building codes makes that nearly impossible to do any more.  Now people are getting around it by living in a camper or trailer house.  After a few years they put on an addition, a few years latter they do another then they frame around the trailer from the ground and put a second roof over it then eventually tare the original trailer out. 

Or build a pole shed with a door large enough to get a camper in.  Eventually the camper ends up parked in the shed permanently and the shed becomes the living area of the camper.

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Re: Building a new house
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2017, 08:22:06 am »
 You are not telling me anything new, I am a licenced builder in Michigan. Every time I pull a permit there is some new requirement, that of course comes with a fee. A lot of the new codes will be catastrophic for the well being of the house because the lobbyists writing the code do not understand how moisture travels through a house, or just do not care.

I would recommend that you buy Joseph Listerbureks "Building in Northern Climates" as a reference and study it BEFORE you get the project underway. We are in one of the worst areas in the country for the kind of weather that can destroy a house from within.

On my own house I refused to do some of the things that code required, and I got away with it because at that time we had an inspector that was reasonable, a retired builder, and agreed with what I was saying. If I had built in Emmet county I would have had to sue the building code department to do as I want with my own house. And I would, because some of the codes are just stupid!

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Re: Building a new house
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2017, 06:52:01 am »
I built my home years ago... I had to get a permit but there was no inspections.
I would hate someone telling me how to build my home. Just ain't right.
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Re: Building a new house
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2017, 05:58:18 pm »
Well I got my application filed yesterday, all went smooth and now I just wait.    In the meantime I learned I have to get a driveway permit, AGAIN.    I got one 15+ years ago when I built my pole barn and I had thought that was good.    Nope, Road Commission wants a money too.   So I am told every time you get a building permit you have to get a ok from the road commission even on existing driveways.   Glad its only $40.      But I have to say it sorta feels like I'm dealing with the Mob.    :D

I am told 1-2 weeks for approval.        In the mean time I guess I will have to look up that book

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Re: Building a new house
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2017, 06:31:05 am »
I just finished our place a year or so ago. I figured that between IRC, NEC, and plumbing codes, there's about 2000 pages of code stuff to figure out. I had no prior building experience, but muddled through OK. Luckily, the inspectors aren't very stringent here, and if you're nice to them, they'll even tell you what they specifically look for. I built everything way past code anyway, since I'm the one living here. :D
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