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WM sharpener
« on: April 12, 2017, 07:05:00 am »
I'm in the thinking process of getting a WM 250 sharpener. I've got a drag one now and not really happy with my results. Would like opinions on anyone who upgraded to one from a drag sharpener. I've pm Cuttingedge about wheels and fluid for it if I decide on one. I sharpen some blades last night and change the wheel on my drag to the white wheel to see if I get better results. If that don't work I'm ready for a change.
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Re: WM sharpener
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2017, 02:41:25 pm »
I sharpen litely twice, and sometimes if the band needs it I'll run it again.

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Re: WM sharpener
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2017, 07:53:27 pm »
Buy one of Richard's grinders and then tell me how you like it.  You can use mineral oil for lube on the cbn.
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Re: WM sharpener
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2017, 11:36:35 pm »
    I have upgraded from a drag style WM blade sharpener to a CBN grinder many years ago. I will never consider going back to a vitrified wheel drag style sharpener. Glad to here you are aware of the alternative CBN wheel manufacturers. I have been using Rixsaw CBN wheels for over 3 years now. Great durability and over all wheel life. A very high quality product. Not sure if you know there is now more than one manufacturer offering a oil cooled full profile CBN wheel sharpener. Ironically, I just took delivery of a new CBN sharpener this week. A CBN sharpener makes maintaining the exact tooth profile extremely easy. 
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Re: WM sharpener
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2017, 06:51:43 am »
Go with a CBN,
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Re: WM sharpener
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2017, 06:05:36 am »
After changing my wheel over to one of the white wheels my blades are doing better. So for now I'll save that $2000 ;D.
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Re: WM sharpener
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2017, 10:34:20 am »
Buy one of Richard's grinders and then tell me how you like it.  You can use mineral oil for lube on the cbn.

I'm kinda new to all this so I don't know who Richard is. Right now I'm in the shopping phase of looking for a sharpener. Just trying to find out what all of my options are.

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Re: WM sharpener
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2017, 03:53:10 pm »
Richard is Cutting edge on the forum.
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Re: WM sharpener
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2017, 08:12:06 am »
Question for ones that have a cbn sharpener. With the new cover that wm has do you still get much oil mist? The area that I would use one is not very ventilated.
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Re: WM sharpener
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2017, 10:30:00 am »
Question for ones that have a cbn sharpener. With the new cover that wm has do you still get much oil mist? The area that I would use one is not very ventilated.
I purchased aBM250 last year. Love it. I don't get much mist in my shack but I refuse to use that 150 dollars per pail oil that they say I should use. Been running Hydralic oil and it works great. Same wheel since I got it.
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Re: WM sharpener
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2017, 06:24:13 pm »
I order it today and got the wheel from Richard. Looking forward to have sharper blades I hope.
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Re: WM sharpener
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2017, 06:28:43 am »
Good for you, 8) 8) The WM sharpener works well, When you see how good a job it does, you will never use a rock wheel again, Unless you want to skip it over water to see how far you can go. ;D
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Re: WM sharpener
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2017, 04:25:01 pm »
it came in Friday now to put it up. I got a heavy built tv stand with drawers off craigslist to sit it on. 

 
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Re: WM sharpener
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2017, 07:06:54 pm »
I've had the BMS250 for over a year now. It is a superior machine. To the previous LTAGA shop series grinder. Never had a drag grinder but I expect to that also.  I really like it.  It is refreshing to get a tool so well thought out.

Once you set the pusher for a given profile all you need to adjust is the blade height to get the same grind each time.  Each "star" on the blade height adjustment knob is about 7 thousandths in height.  So if you measure blade widths with a caliper, you can just sort them and make a calculated slight adjustment with the wheel to go from one to the next making each setup very easy.

You won't want to use this machine in an unventilated space, imo. It should be very easy to rig dryer vent hose and small fan to exhaust it outside if you want to use it in a fixed location.  I have mine on a Craftsman tool cart and just push it over to the edge of the garage and sharpen with the door open.  The housing contains spray but a fine mist still makes it outside.

ps. don't turn on the power with the pump and grinder motor turned on and the grinder head set in the up position.  You will find out why for yourself soon enough.  ;D
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Re: WM sharpener
« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2017, 05:44:05 am »
The area where I was going to use it at is near the back of my shop about 30 ft from garage door. I was hoping that a fan behind it pushing air away would be good enough. A tool cart might be a good idea if this dosen't work.
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Re: WM sharpener
« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2017, 04:25:38 pm »
I would think even a gentle air flow across the sharpener would move the mist away, that's what's happening at the garage door.
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Re: WM sharpener
« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2017, 04:44:27 am »
Any ideas where this parts go?  I didn't see anything about them in book.

 
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Re: WM sharpener
« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2017, 05:10:50 am »
The one on the left is a blade template thing it tells you what profile blade you have.  Not sure about the one on the right, almost looks like some kinda shield or viewing window or something
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Re: WM sharpener
« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2017, 08:32:06 am »
xlogger,

The black component is for aligning the motor arbor and clamp to ensure they are 90 deg. to each other and to also make sure the clamp/wheel surface meet at the correct geometry so the blade is being ground square in the vertical plane.

All (3) of the preset bolts must make contact with the front surface of the clamp.  Once aligned you should be good to go for a long time.  It is nice to check from time to time though.   ;)
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Re: WM sharpener
« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2017, 07:22:52 pm »
Thanks Richard, it looks like the motor is set at a 19 angle if I'm looking correct. I might give you call if that would ok.
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