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Author Topic: Moving/Skidding logs on property with ATV  (Read 1222 times)

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Offline dgrover13

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Moving/Skidding logs on property with ATV
« on: April 07, 2017, 04:51:43 pm »
How realistic is it to drag and pull my logs off of the pile over to my build site using an ATV?

I have 35 foot logs that I will be pulling - probably 1500 to 2500 lbs each.

I need to pull log from the pile over to the foundation - where my pulley system is to raise the logs onto the wall.

I am told a Polaris sportsman 500 would do it - and if I need help get a Log Arch (looks like Logrite makes arches that carry 3000 lbs).

Seems like the ATV would struggle.  Thoughts?

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Re: Moving/Skidding logs on property with ATV
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2017, 06:10:56 pm »
years ago I moved logs around with my Polaris 800 with a log arch and is wasn't the power that was missing it was the weight. My ATV didn't have anywhere near the weight / brake capacity to safely stop and or slow a 2000 LB log and arch combo unless it was perfectly flat not hilly like my woods. . I saved my money sold the ATV and bought a small 4WD tractor ( 30HP) with FEL and have been doing that ever since and felt much safer. Good luck have fun.

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Re: Moving/Skidding logs on property with ATV
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2017, 07:52:32 pm »
I built a small log cabin about 20 years ago in the flat part of Md.  I built a 2 wheel cart and used an A frame and come along to get the logs on the cart.  I pulled the logs through the woods to my build site manually.  An ATV would have been nice.  The logs were SYP 18' long.
   

 
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Re: Moving/Skidding logs on property with ATV
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2017, 06:48:02 pm »
i vote for a 4x4 tractor with FEL ( Front End Loader ).
you can move the logs, then lift.
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Re: Moving/Skidding logs on property with ATV
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2017, 10:27:57 pm »
That's too much, IMO. I've pulled a trailer that probably grossed 1000 pounds through some pretty nasty mudholes and stuff with my Polaris 500, but when you're talking the lightest logs are 1500 pounds, plus dragging at least one end...I'm not going to say impossible, but difficult at the very least.

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Re: Moving/Skidding logs on property with ATV
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2017, 03:48:06 pm »
Thats what I am finding.  Too much weight for a four wheeler. 

Probably will need a good ol tractor. 

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Re: Moving/Skidding logs on property with ATV
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2017, 05:07:12 pm »
30 hp minimum

mine is 51 hp and does what i need.

 

  

  

 
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Re: Moving/Skidding logs on property with ATV
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2017, 05:13:47 pm »
dgrover13
where are you located, nearest city and state.

my Max22 is 22 HP and is too light to do most of what i do so i use it to pile up brush and branches to burn

here is my Honda Rancher 2wd tool cart
 

  

 
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Re: Moving/Skidding logs on property with ATV
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2017, 05:41:13 pm »
It's the weight of a proper tractor that gives it the ability to move stuff. Select a low gear and you can drag a lot of weight. A light ATV doesn't have that advantage. You wouldn't even need 4WD on firm level ground.

Of course 4WD and a loader are good to have if that's in your budget. But a log arch and an older 2WD tractor should do what you need.
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Re: Moving/Skidding logs on property with ATV
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Re: Moving/Skidding logs on property with ATV
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That 2nd arch is a hellova idea... Keeps the log from taking a turn on it's on down a side of a hill...
    Controlled speed.. plus choosing a slighter angle of a hill slope will cure most Ills
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Re: Moving/Skidding logs on property with ATV
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2017, 10:16:35 pm »
Those are some great looking log archs! 

I have decided if I need to move logs I can do so with my truck and a log arch.  I will eventually get a tractor or ATV.  In the meantime I just bought a log arch from a Minnesota guy who builds them. 



I have 20 thirty five foot long logs being delivered next Friday  8) 8) 8) I cannot wait.
I am new to the log industry and had trouble finding a truck who could deliver them 100 miles from where they were cut.  I swear I called every logger in wisconsin and finally came across a guy who works for Bell out of MN and delivers telephone poles.  He's got the full length trailer and loader.

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Re: Moving/Skidding logs on property with ATV
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2017, 06:26:37 pm »
Greetings, you would be incredibly surprised but what a honda 420 or equivalent ATV + 2 log arches can do. My wife and I managed to pull a 25' 21" small end white oak saw log DOWNHILL and then across a shallow creek through 1/4 mile of old logging trails, you just have to get creative,take your time,get chains on the ATV and have a good feel for when too much is indeed tooo much...If you have a slight downhill section and worry about your ATV being able to stop just adjust your arch (if it has a manual winch on it) to let the log drag to introduce a brake effect...  :) Also I have the 3k LB Logrite arch along with a smaller fetching arch I use for the end of the log to get it off the ground.


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Re: Moving/Skidding logs on property with ATV
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2017, 06:42:26 pm »
You can also get creative with the arches and lash them to trees and spin logs around so you get the big end lifted first...



The combo deal even works in snow...


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Re: Moving/Skidding logs on property with ATV
« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2017, 09:45:48 am »
When I attended an introductory course leading to The Game Of Logging training the instructor demonstrated ATV logging. He had a 500CC ATV, 4x4 and a home built log arch. On his arch the log was suspended from a chain that slid on an incline, up higher in the back, low in the front on maybe a 30-35 degree angle. When he pulled on the log the front end was lifted and he had no problem pulling a 16.5' log, as he came to and started down a small hill, at one point the log slid forward, which lowered it to the ground and that created some braking action. He cautioned against going down a steep incline or at an angle. With that method you had to go straight down a hill.
I later took Game Of Logging courses 1 and 2 from him. By the way, if you will be using a chainsaw I highly recommend you take at least courses 1 and 2 in The Game Of Logging. It is a great use and safety course for logging.
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Re: Moving/Skidding logs on property with ATV
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2017, 10:35:02 am »
I have had a lot of success using my Honda ATV skidding logs with my Log Rite. Short Video I made on using it.