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Re: Chattering band-Kasco
« Reply #40 on: April 20, 2017, 01:25:23 pm »
Ibought two of the Ripper 37s with the shallow gulet and dont like them. New on my woodland thy push just as hard as a dull deep gullet. I have one left will use it on a dirty log then toss it out
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Re: Chattering band-Kasco
« Reply #41 on: April 20, 2017, 05:41:21 pm »
     Different sawyers have different mills, use different bands and cut different woods under different conditions.  Results may very dramatically between one and the next. 
     Why question another seasoned professional about what works for him?  That really is not in the tradition of this Forum.  If it doesn't work for you, don't do it that way!
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Re: Chattering band-Kasco
« Reply #42 on: April 20, 2017, 06:02:28 pm »
Yep, no gumming here I can promise you that!  I've tried every trick in the book except for different tooth spacing.  It's the only thing I haven't tried and it's why I'm a little interested in it.  I've heard spruce is tough to cut straight and if you can, then I can!
 

 A little extra set also helps in dry pine but you've most likely tried that.  In spruce their is night and day difference between 7/8 pitch and a shallow gullet 3/4 pitch blade.  The 3/4 pitch saws really good up to 14" wide or so and just a bit of up and down in real wide cuts, the 7/8 in wide cuts is terrible.  Steve
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Re: Chattering band-Kasco
« Reply #43 on: April 20, 2017, 07:51:30 pm »
     Different sawyers have different mills, use different bands and cut different woods under different conditions.  Results may very dramatically between one and the next. 
     Why question another seasoned professional about what works for him?  That really is not in the tradition of this Forum.  If it doesn't work for you, don't do it that way!
Why question another sawyer?  For different or better ideas.  And I think you're wrong - This is what the forum is based upon.  People asking others what has worked for them and for different ideas.  What are you trying to say?  You're not making much sense.  Meant with respect.
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Re: Chattering band-Kasco
« Reply #44 on: April 20, 2017, 08:37:32 pm »
Why question might better have read "why insult?". Dug kinda came across that way, whether intentional or not.
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Re: Chattering band-Kasco
« Reply #45 on: April 20, 2017, 09:21:39 pm »
Why question might better have read "why insult?". Dug kinda came across that way, whether intentional or not.


I'm a ball buster smart aleck by nature, if you were to have met me in person it might make more sense...the internet and typing doesnt really relay stuff well.  I don't saw much softwood mainly low grade hardwood and its fast sawing no rose smelling so were in different worlds.  Anyways, shallow gullets do not work for me, thick wide and deep is how I like em :D



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Re: Chattering band-Kasco
« Reply #46 on: April 20, 2017, 10:15:39 pm »
I figured that was the case, I'm a big time smart aleck needler myself and I have to be careful the way I come across online😊 I was more trying to clarify what was being talked about than anything. I've said it many times before, I'll say it again- I "dig" Dug's sense of humor ;D
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Re: Chattering band-Kasco
« Reply #47 on: April 21, 2017, 08:42:22 am »
Successful sawyers have their own tried and proven methods as well as niche markets.   They may be different than what other sawyers are accustomed to but different is not necessarily wrong.  It does not bode well to unnecessarily "call them out" just because you disagree with or do not fully understand their methods. 

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Re: Chattering band-Kasco
« Reply #48 on: April 21, 2017, 11:39:06 am »
You guys are just jealous that you cannot compete with the 13hp EZ Jr baby!! :D :D :D :D :D

Y'all remember when MagicMan, Barbender, 4x4, and I had that sawing competition last year and I smoked'em?  :o

Yeah, me neither  :D :D :D :D :D
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Re: Chattering band-Kasco
« Reply #49 on: April 21, 2017, 12:07:40 pm »
Probably could've smoked me, Deese! I have the lowest production rate of any hydraulic mill in the midwest, maybe the whole country ;D
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Re: Chattering band-Kasco
« Reply #50 on: April 21, 2017, 06:56:42 pm »
My saw is a skookum choocher but the guy running it is a half-wit
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Re: Chattering band-Kasco
« Reply #51 on: April 21, 2017, 07:41:00 pm »
Goose
The ripper 37 7's cut great on my mill with 13 hp
Nice and flat in rock maple and I don't have to buy 15 at a time :)
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Re: Chattering band-Kasco
« Reply #52 on: May 08, 2017, 09:23:49 am »
Deere80, I was following this thread and saw your picture of the issue you were having.  I had been having the same problem recently.  Woodland Mills sent me the spring washer upgrade (free and promptly) which I installed last week.  It improved but didn't completely eliminate the problem.  (The spring washer is a big and necessary improvement over the polyurethane bushing though.)

My belts were on their last legs, so I replace them and went through a general alignment - guides, tracking, etc.  The main thing I found was tracking on the drive wheel was slightly different than the RH wheel.  The blade was running a little farther back on the drive wheel.

New blade, new belts, new alignment, new spring washers.  It's back to sawing perfectly again with sharp blades or time-to-change blades.

After wearing out a couple polyurethane bushings pretty quickly, I'd say the change to the spring washer assembly is pretty important. 

Just throwing this out there in case it might help somebody.

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Re: Chattering band-Kasco
« Reply #53 on: May 08, 2017, 07:17:47 pm »
Deere80, I was following this thread and saw your picture of the issue you were having.  I had been having the same problem recently.  Woodland Mills sent me the spring washer upgrade (free and promptly) which I installed last week.  It improved but didn't completely eliminate the problem.  (The spring washer is a big and necessary improvement over the polyurethane bushing though.)

My belts were on their last legs, so I replace them and went through a general alignment - guides, tracking, etc.  The main thing I found was tracking on the drive wheel was slightly different than the RH wheel.  The blade was running a little farther back on the drive wheel.

New blade, new belts, new alignment, new spring washers.  It's back to sawing perfectly again with sharp blades or time-to-change blades.

After wearing out a couple polyurethane bushings pretty quickly, I'd say the change to the spring washer assembly is pretty important. 

Just throwing this out there in case it might help somebody.

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(Once again I'd like to thank Woodland Mills for their prompt and friendly service.)

Last couple logs I sawed with my 126, I started seeing this problem. :( Did a alignment, have new belts. Kind of though it might be that I sharpen my own blades. Well early this morning, I had put a new blade on. Same problem. :(

Called Woodland and asked about the up grade and sure as heck they agree and the best part, they are sending me the replacement parts up grade for free. ;D

I have to say, after having my mill over two years and the seller coming across and sending me replacement parts to up grade my mill is beyond. This is the second time that they did this for me. I can't say enough to thank them. Not to many companies will step in after a warrant and replace parts for free. That should tell someone what kind of support one gets with a Woodland Mills. Forestry Forum should be proud to have them as a sponsor. And yes, thank you Woodland. ;D