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Offline charlesjohnson

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Importance of planting trees
« on: March 17, 2017, 01:14:35 am »
Trees are the valuable assets of the earth. It plays a vital role in maintaining temperature. But what is happening now? Deforestation and destruction of natural resources, leading us to a big trouble. In an article, I read that 2016 was the hottest year (http://solution105.com/im-going-miss-barrier-reef/). If we go like this, The whole earth will turn into a dry land due to overheating. It is important to plant trees and bring the equilibrium. What are your views about this?

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Re: Importance of planting trees
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2017, 07:07:25 am »
This is in my little world in Chesterville Maine.
I live on family land,my father passed away at 72,he could not remember the land ever been logged. Yes,firewood,but never logged. So only 10-20 cord a year was cut. I had white pine trees 3 feet across,some even almost 4 feet. When we first started we could see out through the woods. After we stirred the ground up,due to skidding the logs out with our tractor or even just the tree hitting the ground,the trees started to grow.
I brought a guy up here from work,with your way of thinking. I started him out in places we had not cut,than some we had just cut and than a year old and than 2 and then 3. Changed his way of thinking. In the 3 years cutting the ground was covered in small white pine trees. most of my woods are hard to walk through now. The pines are so thick,even a person 20 feet away you can not see.
In my woods the trees are a growing. Yes,they should be thinned so they will grow better lumber,but have not done that yet. Where I had 100 trees I betcha I have more than 1000 now.
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Re: Importance of planting trees
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2017, 07:38:17 am »
to the best of my knowledge the harvest rate has only surpassed the growth rate for 1 year in the united states and it was in the early 90s  :)  the rest of the time we cant cut timber fast as it grows :D this is only in the U.S.A i havent seen any reports world wide but i suspect it is about the same. even in the rain forest where logging was in the news so much its no problem to cut out all the old growth timber but there is always 50 or more comes back in the place 1 giant  :) the crown area is what matters as far as air quality and the new growth will surpass the crown area of the old tree in only a couple years  :) i cant see any real harm other than no big trees left for the kids to see in the future ;)
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Re: Importance of planting trees
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2017, 07:56:00 am »
In the US South, the Forest Service FIA data show that growth is exceeding harvest.  Still, planting or regenerating trees after harvest is important for the future.
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Re: Importance of planting trees
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2017, 09:52:38 am »
Where I live in NH, what used to be fields is now wood lots.  No one is farming anymore so the fields are turning into wood lots.  Thankfully no one has developed them into housing, yet.  Roger

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Re: Importance of planting trees
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2017, 10:55:02 am »
In my area something green is gonna grow.  Even clear cuts will be completely covered with vegetation the next year and I can not see where it matters much whether it is a green tree which impedes ground growth or smaller vegetation that does not. 

Yes the earth may be getting hotter, but "the sky is falling deforestation" is not necessarily the reason.
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Re: Importance of planting trees
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2017, 03:28:15 pm »
If a person lives in or spends too much time in a urban area or concrete jungle I could see how one could be worried about deforestation and habitat loss. I live in a very rural area surrounded by thousands of acres of Pine plantations and some older growth forest, some Oak prairie. People from out of the area always complain when a section is clear cut, I would agree it looks awful for a couple years, but come back in 5-8 years and its  totally changed, lots of new growth trees, the wildlife loves it too. You won't see many deer or turkeys wasting any time in a 50 year old stand of Red Pine, but sit in a section of Jack Pine that was thinned or clear cut a few years back and you'll see plenty of wildlife. The State just clear cut a section of White pine and Aspen down the road from me, they replanted about 2400 acres with Red Oak and left some nice big Red and White pines, in 16 months since it was logged, you can already see how different and nice its going to look.

 As far as what's been going on in South America, I really have no idea, I hear it's bad and the sky is falling, but have no way to separate fact from fiction.
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Re: Importance of planting trees
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2017, 02:24:06 pm »
Where I live we lose woodlots every month they changed the land tax and forest land is taxed at the same amount as farm ground. The wind seems to blow every day and as a boy it only blew hard when a thunder storm was coming. Iam  almost 70 with know children but I do worry about the future for the next generations I believe water will be the big issue. There putting field tiles every twenty feet I wonder how we ever get any ground water anymore. Our logging chapter is working on different programs trying to educate landowners of the importance of woodlots and tree lines in general. Most of the time I feel like we are p###ing into the wind but then I talk with OH LOGGERS son and I am ready for the battle ahead. The sad thing it all seems like it rotates around the all mighty dollar. Maybe we need to tell them when it is all said and done we all will end up with a four by six hole in the ground.

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Re: Importance of planting trees
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2017, 08:57:17 am »
The vast majority of scientist who study climate change believe that the increasing amount of carbon dioxide is a leading cause of the earth heating. And they also believe that trees are a major trap of CO2. However, our "yard" is actually woods with the underbrush cut down to short weeds. Walnut, cherry, oak and pine saplings are always popping up everywhere. I'm afraid that I mow off hundreds of trees. Then again, areas that have been clear cut greatly benefit from tree planting.

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Re: Importance of planting trees
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2017, 09:21:27 am »
Climate change has apparently occurred since the beginning of time.  Just ask the dinosuars.  I am in the same camp as WDH,  Autocar and MM, planting trees is important for the future.

Concerning carbon dioxide consumption, I wonder how a 1000 acre corn crop compares to a 1000 acre tree crop?  Anyone know of comparable research? 

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Re: Importance of planting trees
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2017, 10:45:39 am »
The problem with the current climate change is that it is occurring so fast. The melting of the icecaps is happening now and very rapidly. I recently read an article about islands in the South Pacific that are now seeing flooding. Oddly enough, the indigenous people on these islands are Catholic and don't believe in climate change. Why not? God just wouldn't do this to them.  :-\  And the world is going to see devastating coastal flooding before the end of this century.

As for corn vs trees, you might want to read this. http://www.dec.ny.gov/lands/47481.html Trees are long term while corn is nothing but a small blip.

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Re: Importance of planting trees
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2017, 11:14:27 am »
Den, thanks.  I am not naive enough to think humans have not impacted our environment and possibly the climate.  Thanks for the link, I will read it. 
The 88 million of acres of corn planted in 2015  https://www.usda.gov/nass/PUBS/TODAYRPT/acrg0615.pdf
is a big blip, not to mention millions of acres of the other crops.  There is bound to be some research somewhere concerning carbon conversion benefits of other crops besides trees.
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Re: Importance of planting trees
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2017, 11:42:10 am »
The islands in the south Pacific that are flooding, there are actually very few, are sinking. Their problem has nothing to do with sea level rise and everything to do with pumping their ground water out allowing the land to sink.
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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2017, 12:00:36 pm »
Yes, you are correct, fishpharmer. That is a huge area covered with crops that do sequester carbon dioxide. The problem is the limited time before they are burned or rotted and release the CO2 again. That's why trees are so great. They can tie up the CO2 for many years.

Land subsidence occurs in areas like CA's Central Valley where huge amounts of water are pumped for irrigation. That doesn't happen on the islands I mentioned. Here is another article. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/may/10/five-pacific-islands-lost-rising-seas-climate-change

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Re: Importance of planting trees
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2017, 12:30:20 pm »
and re carbon sequestration from row crops, that does not happen.  Actually the fuels spent in getting fertilizer, prep, planting, spraying, harvesting, and drying mean that row crops are net negatives.  Properly maintained pasture can be a long term positive as the grasses can sequester huge amounts of carbon in the root systems.  Still, they don't compare to trees. 

Trees...they are just great carbon sinks and nothing beats them. 

Re island in the pacific yeah there are a few hundred thousand in trouble-no doubt.  The real tragedy is going to hit first in Bangladesh.  The glaciers re melting in the himalayas and as the rivers and ocean encroach on the delta that basket case of a country is going to fall apart (personal fear).  10's of millions are going to be homeless.  No where to go either, India does not want them and neither does Myanmar.  It will be the first great environmental tragedy of my son's lives.  At least the Dutch will have the technological prowess to adapt and the wealth to respond. 

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Re: Importance of planting trees
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2017, 12:53:55 pm »
What I want to know is where is the guy who started this thread?  :D He probably thought "Forestry Forum, here are tree-choppers who need bashing".   :)

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Re: Importance of planting trees
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2017, 04:58:20 pm »
What I want to know is where is the guy who started this thread?  :D He probably thought "Forestry Forum, here are tree-choppers who need bashing".   :)

 :D :D

Theoretically, all the extra CO2 should help the plants and trees grow much faster.   ;D   
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