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40" oak tree to chain saw mill into table tops
« on: January 31, 2017, 08:48:49 pm »
I just recently fell this beautiful 42" oak tree.   I plan on purchasing a MS880 and alaskan mill and plan on cutting 3" slabs for table tops.    I am looking for tips on how to slab this out versus the heart cracks(heart crack is T shaped).   Any tips would be great.

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Re: 40" oak tree to chain saw mill into table tops
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2017, 09:12:16 pm »
Welcome to the forum josh j. I'm not the one to talk to about slabbing with a chainsaw mill. I have no experience in that area. Hey, where are you from? 
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Re: 40" oak tree to chain saw mill into table tops
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2017, 09:24:49 pm »
Josh,

   Welcome to FF. Suggest you update your profile so we know where you are located and such.

   Unless you have other, continuing needs for the 880 and csm why not check to see if there are local sawyers already equipt to do such work in your area. You can check the Extras button here on this site for a local sawyer who might have a slabber to do such work or you can go to the WM site (Sponsor on left) and check their Pro-Sawyer network for local sawyers in your area. Even if they don't have such equipment they may have contacts who do. Good luck.
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Re: 40" oak tree to chain saw mill into table tops
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2017, 11:28:07 pm »
Welcome.  First go online and order a 5 gallon pail of Anchorseal 2 and seal the ends.  Sealing the end grain is very important to reduce checking.  It will help protect the log while waiting to be milled, and will remain on your slab ends forcing drying to occur through the sides where it will air dry slower and more evenly, to reduce checking.

You'll need a ladder long enough to go past the starting end of the log about a foot and a half at least in order to start your csm cut.  Having it go at least the same amount past the end helps support the saw as you exit the slab cut.  You'll need a bunch of wood wedges to support the ladder in multiple places to make it stable.  Then you'll need some metal strapping from the plumbing section of the hardware store.  It's got all the holes in it.  Lastly you'll need good screws for the strapping.  I use Fastcap Powerhead screws - 1.25 or 1.5".  Remember that your cut needs to be underneath these screws or you'll mess up your ripping chain, and that would not be good.

I recommend granberg alaskan mills.  I have an older one with a 66" bar(which lets me cut about 56").  Do you know how to sharpen chain well?  I use granberg's Precision grinder.  It's a fixture with a small grinder.  Works great when you understand how to use it. 

Try to plan your slabbing cuts so that you box the heart in a slab.  You might get checks in that slab and might not.  If you do, it's a great opportunity to use bowties.  You'll probably get some tiger stripes in that middle slab too and maybe the faces of the two on either side.

Do you just want to make one table?  If so you can just slab one side to get enough slab, then quater saw the rest, or make a boxed heart beam, .....

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Re: 40" oak tree to chain saw mill into table tops
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2017, 04:17:21 am »
Interesting end grain. Oak looks different in my neck of the woods.
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Re: 40" oak tree to chain saw mill into table tops
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2017, 05:09:26 am »


  Looks more like white ash, both the end grain and bark. No matter both are nice wood. Unless your using it that long I'd cut it in  half or a little longer than the planned use, those slabs will be heavy.   Steve
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Re: 40" oak tree to chain saw mill into table tops
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2017, 06:41:33 am »
The butt cut grains look like a burr oak. The bark more like ash. Trees look a little different other places...
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Re: 40" oak tree to chain saw mill into table tops
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2017, 06:44:31 am »
looks like a big Post Oak.
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Re: 40" oak tree to chain saw mill into table tops
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2017, 06:57:36 am »



I think too much sapwood for burr or white oak, I cut a lot.  Steve
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Re: 40" oak tree to chain saw mill into table tops
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2017, 06:59:30 am »
You'll also need some wedges to insert into the cut relieving the weight on the bar and chain. 
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« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2017, 07:59:43 am »
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Re: 40" oak tree to chain saw mill into table tops
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2017, 10:07:37 am »

 

  Post oak bark doesn't look like the pic.    Steve
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Re: 40" oak tree to chain saw mill into table tops
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2017, 10:34:24 am »
Does here, wonder where he's located? The growth rings did have some perculier waves,  but to say our post oak often times had sapwood like pictured, that said no wonder why he wants to slabit, nice log!
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Re: 40" oak tree to chain saw mill into table tops
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2017, 06:36:32 pm »
My burr oak here has that same color and waves. Not so much sap wood. But kinda post oak bark.
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Re: 40" oak tree to chain saw mill into table tops
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2017, 10:58:54 am »
I am located in Scappoose Oregon.  I have been assuming it's a oak tree, but we do have ash in our field also.  I will probably cut the log in half as it is 18' long now and put anchor seal on the ends, so I can wait for better weather to mill it up.  I did call several Sawyer's in Oregon and no one can handle a log that size on their mill. 

There are many more trees like the on in the picture and even bigger.  Way bigger.  If everything goes well milling up the first tree and drying, I may keep going. 

Would stacking/S ticketing in a 20' connex to air dry be good?  I am concerned that it would be to airtight

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Re: 40" oak tree to chain saw mill into table tops
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2017, 12:41:13 pm »

Would stacking/S ticketing in a 20' connex to air dry be good?  I am concerned that it would be to airtight

Is a "connex" a shipping container?
If yes, then your concerns are real.
That wet wood will turn the container into a mushroom factory in short order.
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X2 on the anchor seal.
Three inch slabs will take more than a year and a half to dry down to about 20% moisture content.
Probably more like three years.
Have you considered building a solar kiln for your slabs?
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« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2017, 01:29:35 pm »
   I'm not the go-to guy for wood drying but I would think you could stack and sticker in a connex if you had plenty of ventilation in there to keep the air moving and the moisture pulled out as the slabs dry. Might even put a dehydrator in there to help remove the moisture just be sure to keep the ends well sealed and not to dry too quickly and cause the wood to split.
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Re: 40" oak tree to chain saw mill into table tops
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2017, 02:00:34 pm »
Its some kind of oak! At this point who cares,  its pretty stuff,  solid too.
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Re: 40" oak tree to chain saw mill into table tops
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2017, 02:13:00 pm »
My take on that log would be to mount the ladder so that it's parallel with the center of the log, Then I would cut above (or beyond)  the vertical heart line and by that split the log. The piece with the heart line and the stem of the T I would use a Alaskan minimil to quarter and then mill into boards. The other heart free part I then would mill into planks.
It takes a lot of gas and time to do such big logs and not forgetting something to move the planks with. This is an application where a skip tooth ripping chain may come in handy to keep the chain speed up or to use a dual powerhead setup.

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Re: 40" oak tree to chain saw mill into table tops
« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2017, 11:04:28 pm »
That does look very much like the ash that grows here in Oregon. Anchor seal it and I'll come help you saw it before the weather gets too hot.
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