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Offline Big Leaf Maple

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Please help identify this tree
« on: January 26, 2017, 08:51:18 pm »
Hi everyone. I'm brand new here. I have a lot of different species of trees on our property. We currently just started tapping our Big Leaf Maple Trees for sap to make syrup from. We are also gong to tap our Red Alders and if we have some; our Birch trees. That is what I need help identifying; the possible Birch trees..
These trees have no blossoms or fruit, no lower branches, they are tall and the crown is at the upper part of the tree, the bark peels off horizontally, and has leaves kind of similar to an Alder but unfortunately I didn't take pictures of the leaves while they were still on the tree before the Fall. Here are some pictures of the trees in question. Note that the picture with the two trees close together, the tree on the left with the flag tape on it is a Big Leaf Maple, but the one on the right is one of the ones in question.







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Re: Please help identify this tree
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2017, 09:25:01 pm »
Looks like that it is in the genus Prunus.  It includes the cherries and plums. 
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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2017, 09:27:49 pm »
Thank you for the reply WDH but these trees give no blossoms/flowers or fruit. So they can't be a Cherry or Plum. They just have leaves that look similar to a Red Alder leaf.

I am thinking they are Black Birch myself but I'm no expert that's for sure!

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Re: Please help identify this tree
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2017, 09:30:52 pm »
Yes, could be in the birch family. 
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Re: Please help identify this tree
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2017, 10:00:12 pm »
scratch and sniff ;D no really, wack it with a hatchet and smell it or drill a hole
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Re: Please help identify this tree
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2017, 10:11:13 pm »
scratch and sniff ;D no really, wack it with a hatchet and smell it or drill a hole
Ok Pinefeller I can do that. What am I looking for in ways of smell to identify it?

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Re: Please help identify this tree
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2017, 10:26:35 pm »
I can't help with the ID but it might give others a better clue if you fill in your bio. Where are these trees located? If I remember what these guys have taught me, birch will have a wintergreen smell to it.
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Re: Please help identify this tree
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2017, 10:45:20 pm »
I can't help with the ID but it might give others a better clue if you fill in your bio. Where are these trees located? If I remember what these guys have taught me, birch will have a wintergreen smell to it.
I'm from Maple Ridge, BC Canada.
Thank you for the tip about the wintergreen!

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Re: Please help identify this tree
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2017, 11:57:19 pm »
any luck?

If it is indeed a juvenile cherry it will smell very bitter. you mentioned a long trunk with a lack of limbs is pushing me to black birch. should smell like wintergreen

hold the phone.... just got to thinking.... black doesnt peel... it splits if anything (got to thinking about a small stand of black birch i thinned out) im actually leaning to yellow (wont smell pretty like the black) hmmmm

got a picture backed up a little to see the crown/surroundings? leaf, twig, bud?

Im surprised you havent got more responses these guys are usually all over this stuff.
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Re: Please help identify this tree
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2017, 07:24:39 am »
I do not believe that black birch or yellow birch occur naturally in British Columbia.
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Re: Please help identify this tree
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2017, 07:54:06 am »
Yellow birch would be my guess ::)

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Re: Please help identify this tree
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2017, 10:12:06 am »
It is water birch, Betula occidentalis.
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Re: Please help identify this tree
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2017, 08:56:56 am »
I've never heard of water birch but considering your proximity to Vancouver it could be just about any birch. My experience living on the west coast is that every introduced species grows like crazy.

I think you have pictures of two different species there. One (first and last pictures) does look like a birch. The middle two pictures are almost certainly bitter cherry (Prunus emarginata). They never get that big and my experience is that they are very hit or miss if they produce flowers any given year. Wild growing trees with small crowns are less likely to produce flowers and if they do, it won't be many.

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Re: Please help identify this tree
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2017, 11:34:38 pm »
Thank you guys. We found out they are all Birch. The old Catkins that were still left on some of the branches were the tell tale. We are thinking they are Black Birch. But the Water Birch does also look very much like them.
Either way they are Birch so we can tap them for Sap to make Birch Syrup along with all our Big Leafs :)