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Re: Maple syrup 2017
« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2017, 05:38:07 pm »
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Re: Maple syrup 2017
« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2017, 06:13:41 pm »
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Re: Maple syrup 2017
« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2017, 08:59:24 pm »
There isn't the density of maple that you NE guys have, here in AR, but my acreage has enough to run a good number of taps for me.  My evaporator tray is being tweaked by some sheet metal guys now, should be done tomorrow. I plan on running 100 taps this season to get my feet wet, and go up from there. Based on wandering my property I think we could run 250-300 max. Just a hobby.
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Re: Maple syrup 2017
« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2017, 08:36:01 am »
With 100 taps, you'll have enough syrup for your family and still have a little left over to sell! 

Have fun, it is interesting!
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Re: Maple syrup 2017
« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2017, 02:39:12 pm »
There isn't the density of maple that you NE guys have, here in AR, but my acreage has enough to run a good number of taps for me.  My evaporator tray is being tweaked by some sheet metal guys now, should be done tomorrow. I plan on running 100 taps this season to get my feet wet, and go up from there. Based on wandering my property I think we could run 250-300 max. Just a hobby.

With 100 taps if you have a good year you could expect as much as 15-20 gallons of finished syrup.  The last couple years I have been averaging 5-7 taps per gallon of syrup.

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Re: Maple syrup 2017
« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2017, 05:58:10 pm »
We've got one short 3/4" mainline left to run first thing in the AM and we think we'll get the wet/dry hung up tomorrow.
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Re: Maple syrup 2017
« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2017, 10:35:34 am »
I'm going to tap my maples for the first time in eight years.  Got to get a new pan made for my 55-gallon drum arch.  Probably going to do about 20 taps, used to use old-school metal spiles and buckets, this year it will be a small plastic spile, a short length of tubing to a 5-gallon bucket w/ lid.  I can only boil on weekends so I have to collect for the week.  Hope the weather cooperates.

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Re: Maple syrup 2017
« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2017, 11:30:31 am »
That works pretty good, Engineer!

If the tree is big enough, put in additional taps, proportional to the size of the tree, and put the end of the line in a 5-gallon pail!

We see quite a few of those setups in yards in this area!
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Re: Maple syrup 2017
« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2017, 05:42:02 pm »
Engineer, unless you have stuff already, try 3/16" tubing for that, it should work really well.
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Re: Maple syrup 2017
« Reply #29 on: January 26, 2017, 06:23:17 pm »
  We got the wet/dry hung up today.  I'm going to work on the shack the next few days as our advisor is advising others until Tuesday ;) 8)  Tuesday we hope to get the main lines tied into the wet dry and start hanging the 5/16" laterals on Wednesday.
  I've been meaning to get some pics but we're pretty busy during the day  ;D and it's been foggy, snowy and generally crappy for photos as well as working outside :) :)
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Re: Maple syrup 2017
« Reply #30 on: January 27, 2017, 12:11:06 am »
What is a wet dry?
I just tap walnut trees may have as many as 12 taps this year.
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Re: Maple syrup 2017
« Reply #31 on: January 27, 2017, 04:34:39 pm »
  The wet dry is the main lines that carry vacuum and the sap.  The top line is the vacuum line and the bottom is for sap.  They are connected where the 3/4" mainlines enter the wet dry.  Having a separate line for sap and vacuum makes the vacuum transfer more efficient.  I'll get some pics when we start plumbing them together :)
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Re: Maple syrup 2017
« Reply #32 on: January 27, 2017, 06:24:56 pm »
    Having a separate line for sap and vacuum makes the vacuum transfer more efficient.

It also greatly increases the carrying capacity of the size pipe used for your liquid line. For example, a 3\4" mainline is rated for up to 200-250 taps. Make that a 1" air line over 3\4 liquid line and you're good for about 1000 taps. The liquid line can be 100% full and vacuum still transferred to mainlines with the air line.
Checking vacuum leaks becomes easier as well because you can isolate mainlines that have leaks, VS a mono-pipe system where one leak affects the whole line.

How are you tying your mainlines in Corley? We use stainless steel pipe fittings to create a manifold that T's into the air, liquid, and mainline, with ball valves and a vacuum gauge.
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Re: Maple syrup 2017
« Reply #33 on: January 27, 2017, 06:27:06 pm »
We are almost 1\2 tapped. Think the crew did about 2800 today, averaged about 400 per person. That's with fixing alot of down lines and squirrel chews  >:(
We are on pace to get all tapped in record time this year. We usually haven't even started tapping yet, and we've got about 13,000 done.
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Re: Maple syrup 2017
« Reply #34 on: January 27, 2017, 07:12:57 pm »
That's what we're using minus the vac gage.  Our mains are 3/4" and the wet dry is 1 1/4".  We'll have more than 500 taps in this lot.  My son and I did an estimate last fall and figured there may be as many as 750.
  The wet dry will be extended to take in the other woodlot for the 2018 season.  There's another 1,000 or so over there.  We're going to slick out some veneer logs there first.  The lot we're working in now has been tapped previously and has very few veneer candidates.  The other lot is different  ;D 8)
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Re: Maple syrup 2017
« Reply #35 on: January 27, 2017, 07:17:08 pm »
Anyone have sap ladders in their bush ???  We've got one spot that needs one.  It'll serve 30 or 40 taps.
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Re: Maple syrup 2017
« Reply #36 on: January 27, 2017, 07:46:34 pm »
They work just fine . add extra tee's in case you flow more than what 12 lines can handle . My brother has 2 ladders on one main . we had to go with 3 stars top and bottom . I think he is close to 200 taps on that line . He maintains 25 to 26 inches if we can control the squirrel bites .
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Re: Maple syrup 2017
« Reply #37 on: January 27, 2017, 10:12:36 pm »
  We've been carrying shotguns while working to deal with the red squirrels.  I hear squirrels are a real problem especially after the first season.
  Knocked off a BIG porcupine the other day  :(  Judging by the size of the quills it was sporting I'm sure it was the one my dogs tangled with last fall.
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Re: Maple syrup 2017
« Reply #38 on: February 02, 2017, 07:33:23 am »
I don't know what it is, but squirrels like to chew on the plastic lines, fortunately, we don't get much damage from them!

About two more weeks and we'll be tapping!

Always anxious at this point, to get started!

Happy sugaring, guys!   8)
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Re: Maple syrup 2017
« Reply #39 on: February 02, 2017, 07:00:37 pm »
We don't get much squirrel damage in out woods thankfully, but we get enough. We did an installation earlier this year, and I guess after we left about 2000 taps worth of lines were on the ground. Critters chewed every single end hook off and dissapeared with them. Coyotes and bears bit mainlines, it was a mess!

We're tapping a new woods right now. Around 7000, all fresh trees :) makes for fun drilling. Except the terrain is crazy steep. Like 150% slope steep. I still was able to tap 500 trees today although it felt like I did 700 or 800.

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