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Offline teakwood

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Re: H profile stickers
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2017, 07:54:22 am »
How many passes did you have to make on a table saw to get that wide groove?  a sawblade is just 3/16 thick

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Re: H profile stickers
« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2017, 08:06:18 am »
Looks like he is using a dado blade in the table saw.

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Re: H profile stickers
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2017, 07:13:17 am »
Looks like he is using a dado blade in the table saw.

I use a 1/2" dado cutter head, or Yellow Hammer mentioned a molder; that would be the fastest way.
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Re: H profile stickers
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2017, 11:30:19 pm »
I've tried to run them through the molder, four feet long and 3/4 inch just doesn't do well. If I kept them long it work great but I'm cutting mine out of edgings so they get cut to four feet when green. If they're perfectly straight they run through fine, but any bow or warp and they catch on everything!!
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Re: H profile stickers
« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2017, 12:36:07 am »
I'm using a half inch wide stacked dado head cutting the groove on one pass per side.  This leaves 1/8" left per leg of the H and a 1/8 inch center.  The power feed is a one hp running on high, and significant dust collection is a must because the waste coming off the saw is chips instead of sawdust and can pile up in a hurry.  The nice thing about a powerfeed is that it's set angled slightly inboard to the saw fence so pulls everything that way, even warped of crooked stickers get fed or forced in against the fence to keep the groove centered.  We've made many, many pallets of stickers using this method but it is mind numbing. 
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Re: H profile stickers
« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2017, 05:40:53 am »
Need any advise on this. I've got a slabber saw coming and I'm going to start cutting some larger heavy slabs, too heavy for me to play with. So I was thinking about making some 3" thick stickers so I could use my forklift to load and unload. So I'm thinking about making some H stickers for this. I've got a cheaper craftman table saw, not a very heavy unit and need a power feed. Would I be better off getting a heavier table saw? Also I've never use a power feeder, do they mount on the machine? I've got a jointer that would be nice to use it on also.
Also on 2+ inch slabs do you think using only 3 stickers on a 8 ft long slab would be ok or should I use more? I'm thinking the less sticker the less chance getting sticker stain or at least not as many stains.
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Re: H profile stickers
« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2017, 11:50:18 am »
After posting this I looked around and getting a shaper might be a better idea for cutting 2" out of a 3" sticker. I would think if I did this I would need at least a 3hp shaper.
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Re: H profile stickers
« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2017, 08:03:50 pm »
Ricky,

It never ends  ;D.
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Re: H profile stickers
« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2017, 10:21:08 pm »
I make them on the shaper just because I have a feeder mounted on the shaper all the time.  I have a feeder for the table saw also but its normally not mounted and ready to go.



Ricky we need pictures of this new slabber.  My neighbor has had a Lucas slabber for years....he has hundreds of slabs on sticks.  A little pic of his showroom.



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Re: H profile stickers
« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2017, 11:17:28 pm »
I have a friend who uses 2x2 stickers for his slabs to use with his forklift.  I have used 1.5x1.5 but only if the slabs are heavy, as I lose too much packing density.  I bought thin, polished lumber forks for my forklift for just this reason.
There is a mill down the road who makes their own fluted stickers and they profile several sizes using a multi head molder, but a shaper would work fine. Here's a pic. 


A powerfeeder is an excellent device.  I wish I had bought one many years earlier.  They mount to any machine and have articulating heads to be used on pretty much any machine. 
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Re: H profile stickers
« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2017, 06:02:36 am »
Ricky,

It never ends  ;D.
I know Danny its all your fault, see what I'm doing after you told me about our "expiration" date.

Larry, it's on the way from NZ not sure when it will get here maybe end of the month but you can click on Turbosaw below to see it. That's all I've seen so far and youtube, I just like it because of getting forklift next to the log without removing the bar.
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Re: H profile stickers
« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2017, 08:12:00 am »
The power feed sure makes work easier even if its running fast.  Didn't take you long to get that pile run through.  Thank you for the video.
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Re: H profile stickers
« Reply #32 on: January 08, 2017, 08:58:23 am »
Made several hundred about 15 yrs ago on my shaper, power feed
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Re: H profile stickers
« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2017, 03:07:55 pm »
Regarding the 3x3 or whatever size you need for a fork lift...use a 3" wide by 2" high and then screw or nail a grooved sticker (or two side by side) to the top and bottom faces to get the wider opening and still have ventilation.

Note the wonderful curved grooves, which provide a much stronger sticker than if sharp corners were used, in Larry's posting.
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Re: H profile stickers
« Reply #34 on: January 10, 2017, 06:29:44 am »
Larry what hp shaper and power head do you have on your?
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Re: H profile stickers
« Reply #35 on: January 10, 2017, 08:50:22 am »
Its a 3 HP Delta with a 1/4 HP feeder.  With such a small cut, it runs as fast as I care to feed it.
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Re: H profile stickers
« Reply #36 on: January 13, 2017, 12:10:35 pm »
 Try as I might, I cant wrap my mind around how the h- profile stickler keeps the stack from staining.  And I'm not doubting y'alls word?? ??? ???

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« Reply #37 on: January 13, 2017, 10:38:04 pm »
Try as I might, I cant wrap my mind around how the h- profile stickler keeps the stack from staining.  And I'm not doubting y'alls word?? ??? ???
Airflow....
Wet wood against wet wood in warm temperatures can cause mold, discoloration, enzymatic stain, bugs, etc. So the more the surface area contacted the more chance of trapped moisture.  The grooves in the H stickers allow air flow in the tunnel and dries out the moisture under the sticker.
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« Reply #38 on: April 01, 2017, 10:42:21 pm »
Interesting reading about H stickers, I need to try them on white hard maple however my long experience with flat sticks proves they should be rough.

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Re: H profile stickers
« Reply #39 on: April 02, 2017, 07:52:21 am »
Why not try to create sticker stain and use more stickers, basic make a pattern out of it and sell them, creating your own market...I'm sure some yuppy would buy all you have.
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