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Started by redprospector, December 17, 2016, 10:53:58 PM

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redprospector

 This may take a while, but I thought I'd start a thread of what I've got going on. Since working in my little piece of the desert, where the soil is like talcum powder, is miserable when the wind blows, and the dust gets into everything, I've decided that now is the time to build some shelter. Even though it will be done on a shoestring budget.
I've decided on a pole barn that will be 30' by 70' with a 12' head clearance. I've got a real good vein of gravel on the property, so that will be the floor (for now), and it will serve to cover some of the talcum powder outside.
Here are a few pictures of what I've done so far, and I'll add to this thread as I make progress.

Holes in the ground.


 
Power poles for the posts.


 

Power poles milled into 6x6's, and post sealer applied to the ends.


 

My buddy, Frank working on the bar joist to span the 31' opening.


  


 

More to come.  :)
1996 Timber King B-20 with 14' extension, Morgan Mini Scragg Mill, Fastline Band Scragg Mill (project), 1973 JD 440-b skidder, 2008 Bobcat T-320 with buckets, grapple, auger, Tushogg mulching head, etc., 2006 Fecon FTX-90L with Bull Hog 74SS head, 1994 Vermeer 1250 BC Chipper. A bunch of chainsaws.

4x4American

Nice.  How tall are the ceilings going to be?
Boy, back in my day..

redprospector

1996 Timber King B-20 with 14' extension, Morgan Mini Scragg Mill, Fastline Band Scragg Mill (project), 1973 JD 440-b skidder, 2008 Bobcat T-320 with buckets, grapple, auger, Tushogg mulching head, etc., 2006 Fecon FTX-90L with Bull Hog 74SS head, 1994 Vermeer 1250 BC Chipper. A bunch of chainsaws.

4x4American

If it's not too late now, might better go taller.  Because when it comes time to expand, that 12' ain't gonna be tall enough.  I've got 14' ceilings now and glad I did because I put an addition on and it gave us some wiggle room. 
Boy, back in my day..

ozarkgem

It does look dry. kind of like the surface of the moon. I would think power poles would hold up quite well in that dry environment. Keep us posted.  How far do you have to go for logs?
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fishfighter

Heck, what you saw? Don't see any trees around. :o

Magicman

Your shed build will be interesting to watch.   8)
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thecfarm

Please keep us posted.
And it's nice to come back in 5-6 years and look at it again.
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WV Sawmiller

Quote from: ozarkgem on December 18, 2016, 04:57:11 AM
It does look dry. kind of like the surface of the moon. I would think power poles would hold up quite well in that dry environment. Keep us posted.  How far do you have to go for logs?

Ozark,

   I used to think poles would last forever in a desert environment too but I did a project in the Gobi desert (Gold & Copper mining camp) and all the utility poles there were banded to concrete poles sunk into the ground. Seems that even though it was bone dry the chemicals and there were insects there that ate through the poles in very short order.

RedP,

   Good looking shed. Keep up the posts. No matter how big you make it you will find pretty soon it is not big enough. Every where you can at least leave room for expansion where you can.
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redbeard

Mill cover plan is coming along real well. Having the wide span is going to be nice. Good job.
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redprospector

Quote from: 4x4American on December 18, 2016, 12:00:11 AM
If it's not too late now, might better go taller.  Because when it comes time to expand, that 12' ain't gonna be tall enough.  I've got 14' ceilings now and glad I did because I put an addition on and it gave us some wiggle room.
12' is already a done deal. If I need to expand it will have to be to the ends.
A friend of mine's mill burned down last year. While talking about it we both decided that it's better to have multiple buildings, instead of one big one. He lost everything in one evening.
Quote from: ozarkgem on December 18, 2016, 04:57:11 AM
It does look dry. kind of like the surface of the moon. I would think power poles would hold up quite well in that dry environment. Keep us posted.  How far do you have to go for logs?
It feels like the surface of the moon...when the wind's not blowing. There's a lot of old pole barns around here that we're built this way. We'll see how it holds up. The Ponderosa (where my mill is) is a 30 mile drive from my house, which is in the middle of the Lincoln National Forest.
Quote from: fishfighter on December 18, 2016, 07:18:52 AM
Heck, what you saw? Don't see any trees around. :o
I don't saw trees, I saw logs.  ;) There's a log yard a couple miles down the road too.  ;D

Talked to my buddys at church this morning, and we're on to set the poles on Tuesday.
1996 Timber King B-20 with 14' extension, Morgan Mini Scragg Mill, Fastline Band Scragg Mill (project), 1973 JD 440-b skidder, 2008 Bobcat T-320 with buckets, grapple, auger, Tushogg mulching head, etc., 2006 Fecon FTX-90L with Bull Hog 74SS head, 1994 Vermeer 1250 BC Chipper. A bunch of chainsaws.

swampwood

Looking Good! I could only wish we were a little drier over here....

redprospector

Well, poles are in the ground, lined up, spaced, and plumb.


  

 

Here's the crew.


 

With the holidays I'm sure it will be after the first of the year before much else gets done.
1996 Timber King B-20 with 14' extension, Morgan Mini Scragg Mill, Fastline Band Scragg Mill (project), 1973 JD 440-b skidder, 2008 Bobcat T-320 with buckets, grapple, auger, Tushogg mulching head, etc., 2006 Fecon FTX-90L with Bull Hog 74SS head, 1994 Vermeer 1250 BC Chipper. A bunch of chainsaws.

Peter Drouin

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redprospector

Thanks, and Merry Christmas to you too Peter!
1996 Timber King B-20 with 14' extension, Morgan Mini Scragg Mill, Fastline Band Scragg Mill (project), 1973 JD 440-b skidder, 2008 Bobcat T-320 with buckets, grapple, auger, Tushogg mulching head, etc., 2006 Fecon FTX-90L with Bull Hog 74SS head, 1994 Vermeer 1250 BC Chipper. A bunch of chainsaws.

reswire

New Mexico is beautiful.  Have a friend who lives near White Sands.  What are temps there at Christmas?
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redprospector

Quote from: reswire on December 21, 2016, 09:11:31 PM
New Mexico is beautiful.  Have a friend who lives near White Sands.  What are temps there at Christmas?
Thanks, tomorrow is supposed to be a high of 41 where I live, and 50 at the mill. Where does your friend live? My house is about 32 miles from White Sands National Monument, and my mill is about 30 miles.
1996 Timber King B-20 with 14' extension, Morgan Mini Scragg Mill, Fastline Band Scragg Mill (project), 1973 JD 440-b skidder, 2008 Bobcat T-320 with buckets, grapple, auger, Tushogg mulching head, etc., 2006 Fecon FTX-90L with Bull Hog 74SS head, 1994 Vermeer 1250 BC Chipper. A bunch of chainsaws.

redprospector

Got a chance to do a little more to it today. We got the bar joist hung, both 20' headers, and all of the top beams up. Almost ready for roof trusses.  8)
Daylight is short this time of year, so I only got 1 picture at lunch time. It was too dark for pictures when we quit. I'll get a few more tomorrow.



 
1996 Timber King B-20 with 14' extension, Morgan Mini Scragg Mill, Fastline Band Scragg Mill (project), 1973 JD 440-b skidder, 2008 Bobcat T-320 with buckets, grapple, auger, Tushogg mulching head, etc., 2006 Fecon FTX-90L with Bull Hog 74SS head, 1994 Vermeer 1250 BC Chipper. A bunch of chainsaws.

Czech_Made

What headers are you using? 

redprospector

I built the headers for the 20' door ways from 3 2x10's with 3/4" plywood sandwiched between. All glued, nailed, & bolted together.



  

 
My friend built a bar joist for the 31' opening.

 

The rest of the top band is 6"x6" spanning posts on 10' centers.


  

 
1996 Timber King B-20 with 14' extension, Morgan Mini Scragg Mill, Fastline Band Scragg Mill (project), 1973 JD 440-b skidder, 2008 Bobcat T-320 with buckets, grapple, auger, Tushogg mulching head, etc., 2006 Fecon FTX-90L with Bull Hog 74SS head, 1994 Vermeer 1250 BC Chipper. A bunch of chainsaws.

Czech_Made

Thank you, I need to span 20', not sure how yet, but your input helps.

paul case

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redprospector

Quote from: Czech_Made on December 29, 2016, 05:51:26 PM
Thank you, I need to span 20', not sure how yet, but your input helps.
You might want to use 2x12 or more to span 20'. I have virtually no snow load where the mill is.
If I built the same building in the mountains where I live, I'd use steel on any opening over 16'.
1996 Timber King B-20 with 14' extension, Morgan Mini Scragg Mill, Fastline Band Scragg Mill (project), 1973 JD 440-b skidder, 2008 Bobcat T-320 with buckets, grapple, auger, Tushogg mulching head, etc., 2006 Fecon FTX-90L with Bull Hog 74SS head, 1994 Vermeer 1250 BC Chipper. A bunch of chainsaws.

redprospector

1996 Timber King B-20 with 14' extension, Morgan Mini Scragg Mill, Fastline Band Scragg Mill (project), 1973 JD 440-b skidder, 2008 Bobcat T-320 with buckets, grapple, auger, Tushogg mulching head, etc., 2006 Fecon FTX-90L with Bull Hog 74SS head, 1994 Vermeer 1250 BC Chipper. A bunch of chainsaws.

azmtnman

Quote from: redprospector on December 29, 2016, 08:00:05 PM
If I built the same building in the mountains where I live, I'd use steel on any opening over 16'.
What elevation is each location?

I noticed your post holes in your 1st pics. Looks like those were easy southwestern post holes!  :D :D :D
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Nice lookin' building!
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