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Author Topic: my new 'girl' (a TJ200)  (Read 4552 times)

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Offline GRANITEstateMP

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Re: my new 'girl' (a TJ200)
« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2017, 03:19:10 pm »
  Labonville in NH or ME has them.  Pretty sure they wouldn't mind shipping them to NY, heck sure they have dealt with Canada plenty too!  I got my chaps from them, good product (so far).

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Re: my new 'girl' (a TJ200)
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2017, 09:56:04 pm »
I operated the same machine when I was only 15 . It had a great winch and I skidded big veneer back in the day . We overworked it and the gas engine blew up , so we installed a 6 cyl int. gas by extending the front end 18 " -then we had lots of power !!! --HAVE FUN !!

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Re: my new 'girl' (a TJ200)
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2017, 08:24:27 am »
Krusty, if you want to buy in Canadian dollars, there is Sling Choker stores across the North. I bought chokers from their North Bay location, but there might be one closer to where you are....??? An option at least.....
I knew she was a keeper when she told me to buy the old skidder !!!!!

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Re: my new 'girl' (a TJ200)
« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2017, 05:54:04 pm »
I found a place in NY that had them available and was 1 day shipping for free. Cant beat that.

Larry1: it has been a hoot to drive and am much more skilled in a short time. Since I am select harvesting I am only dragging a couple trees at a time and it has plenty of power. I wish I had a video of what I did last winter for firewood....a '71 Skidoo alpine pulling a plastic ice sled 1/4 of a cord at a time.

This year is sooooo much quicker and am making a nice skidoo trail through the woods.

Today started running real rough until it died. Then I realized the gap and the points seemed to be to close. Opened them up a bit and off we went.

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« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2017, 07:33:17 pm »
Lube that point cam or it will wear the rubbing block off and will quit again .
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Re: my new 'girl' (a TJ200)
« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2017, 03:17:50 pm »
So far the skidder has run all winter without issue. Though I am just cutting firewood and a few saw logs myself.

The front axle Ujoint needs to be replaced and if I take that axle shaft out once I might as well do them all at the same time.

From the transfer case, there is a Ujoint, short section of drive shaft, another Ujoint. Then a longer section of drive shaft, then Ujoint at the front diff. At the rear portion of the long drive shaft, it is held in place by a bearing of sorts to the frame. While it is caked in grease and I have yet to clean the gunk off, how does one get that shaft from the bearing, or the shaft out of the frame. You would have had to seen it to understand it :)

I really dont want to be pressing out the front end Ujoint from underneath the machine if I dont have to.

Crazy winter, freeze, thaw, flood, repeat. Am cutting ash in a swamp.

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Re: my new 'girl' (a TJ200)
« Reply #26 on: March 08, 2017, 08:32:49 pm »
There are two studs welded to the block that the bearing is in. The nuts have to removed from behind the bracket that is welded to the left side of the frame. Remove the nuts and the complete driveshaft can be removed with the steady bearing. To remove the steady bearing you must remove the yoke next to it. Don't forget to index your yokes when doing u joints!

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« Reply #27 on: March 08, 2017, 09:34:03 pm »
Bushmechanic that makes perfect sense thanks! I could feel the hex heads on those studs but since they were covered in years of fluid it did not make sense. But now it does. Appreciate it!

Oh and I am always careful on yoke alignment.

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« Reply #28 on: June 28, 2017, 11:48:58 am »
Hi folks,

I am ready to start hauling my firewood out of the woods but will need to use my TJ to pull my dump trailer through the muddy spots given the rain we have had so far this year. It should have been well dried out except for these 1 in 100 year rain events.

The last couple times I went in to move things around, it would only start and run for a min or 2 before it would die without full choke and now it wont start at all. The carb and ignition is new. It would run fine for 60 seconds without issue. I thought maybe clogged fuel filter so changed that with no issue and the fuel flow out of the tank is good. Took my carb off and ran it through my ultrasonic cleaner and will reinstall this weekend. Will also confirm spark at the plugs.

I am pondering whether some rain has entered into the tank somehow given how torrential it has been coming down. Next step will be to drain the tank and fill with fresh fuel. Seems like it is one of the few things it could be. Any tidbits appreciated!

Also pondering where I should put a hitch on the TJ to tow my dump trailer through the wet areas or just pull it through with the cable?

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Re: my new 'girl' (a TJ200)
« Reply #29 on: June 28, 2017, 12:51:42 pm »
Ignition condenser  :)
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« Reply #30 on: June 28, 2017, 03:03:19 pm »
That is an easy fix....will pick one up tomorrow as well. I guess I should have put my resistor back in the circuit too in the winter. I took it out as had more ignition issues until I realized the wire from the coil to distrib was in poor shape. With that in order it ran super solid until this issue.

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« Reply #31 on: June 28, 2017, 04:40:11 pm »
If it was running, and now it's not, and the only thing between the two is time and humidity, then your points may be gunked up. If/when/before you change the condensor, remove the points and drag some emery paper between the contacts until they shine.

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Re: my new 'girl' (a TJ200)
« Reply #32 on: June 28, 2017, 05:02:42 pm »
They don't make points and condensors like they used to. 
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« Reply #33 on: June 28, 2017, 07:23:59 pm »
They don't make points and condensors like they used to.
No they make electronic today put a set in my M farmall
and starts one turn nothing like it but don't need to worry about points any more,should have had then years ago,was told about them
but ya know how it is just didn't do it stubbing  I guess. Try it I'm sure you will like, good luck

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« Reply #34 on: June 28, 2017, 08:54:52 pm »
You had better put that resistor into the system for sure. That cuts the voltage down so your points don't burn up, which is most likely what's wrong now.

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Re: my new 'girl' (a TJ200)
« Reply #35 on: June 29, 2017, 08:59:06 am »
I've got Pertronix systems in a couple old Farmalls and a JD.
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« Reply #36 on: June 29, 2017, 12:49:35 pm »
I do see Pertronix available for the 172 but expensive here in Canada. Will grab it on my next work trip to the US. In the interim will put points and a new condenser in this weekend and will let you all know.

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« Reply #37 on: July 15, 2017, 07:36:07 pm »
New points and condenser were put in and made no difference so I added a new coil and we are back in business. Also put in a new 1.5 ohm resistor and with it in the circuit, I only had 6v across the coil. It is not enough to give good spark when warm. Will try a 1 ohm resistor which should bring it up 7 v or should I just go for a .75 ohm and get it up to 8v? I heard the UC12 coils were happiest at 8v.

Thoughts?

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Re: my new 'girl' (a TJ200)
« Reply #38 on: July 15, 2017, 11:11:43 pm »
I put a big $ pertronix in my 1.6L gas bobcat and it burned up in a month. Not happy with them.

Its typical to have a high voltage start current and a low voltage run current through your breaker points.  Example, your crank position wire bypasses the external resistor but your run position on the ignition switch goes through coil and resistor.  Say 11v cranking and 7v running. 


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« Reply #39 on: July 17, 2017, 10:38:01 am »
I called the tech support number for SMP to get an idea of ideal voltage and max current for one of their coils. The individual seemed pained to find an answer for my questions.

Running the UC12 with no resistor gives me excellent results engine wise but of course will eat coils.

Measured voltage across the coil when hot was 6v on a full battery. That seems a bit low and also not enough spark to make the engine run well. Currently using a 1.5 ohm resistor and the UC12 has 1.3 - 1.5 ohm resistance so that math makes perfect sense. Ordered a MSD8214 resistor at .8 ohm which should give me 7.2 - 7.8 v across the coil. Stay tuned on results.