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Is this an Ash?

Started by Coffee_Creek, October 20, 2016, 09:56:14 AM

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Coffee_Creek

I'm clearing a site to build a new house on and have two of these that have to come down, I was told they ate Ash. Are they any good for lumber or firewood?















Magicman

Ain't Ash.  Looks like Beech to me.
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hopm

I would have also voted beech.....had someone tell me from eastern part of state that what I call beech is actually burr oak....never heard that before.....someone enlighten me please.

catalina

definitely not Ash. Looks like beech to me as well.

Ox

I vote a beech of some sort.  Ash has similar leaves but much rougher bark with up/down furrows in it.
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Coffee_Creek

If it's beech, would the trunk be worth sawing 4/4 for flooring, siding, trim?

Would make decent firewood?

sandsawmill14

makes good firewood  i dont know about flooring but it does get really hard to drive nails in after it dries :)
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Al_Smith

It gets about as hard as concrete to be quite honest about it .

sandsawmill14

Quote from: hopm on October 20, 2016, 12:07:16 PM
I would have also voted beech.....had someone tell me from eastern part of state that what I call beech is actually burr oak....never heard that before.....someone enlighten me please.

burr oak will have a leaf similar to other white oaks and have huge acorns. the beech is what is in the picture above and the nuts are small and kinda pointed. we dont have burr oak around here but i seen plenty in mo and some east of us so i cant get a pic but i can get pics of beech and ash logs at the mill later if i dont forget ::) :D
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WDH

Ash leaves are compound.  Beech leaves are simple.  Ash has an opposite branching pattern, beech has an alternating branching pattern. 
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petefrom bearswamp

If it is ash it must be the sub species Fraxinus horizontalis.
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WDH

Ash and beech look nothing alike.  (At least to me, moi, or myself). 
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Coffee_Creek

Thanks to all of you guys for your imput, you have pointed me in the right direction. My wife bought me a book " Native Trees of the Southeast" an identification guide. Only problem is if you don't at least have an idea you can look throught it for hours. I went to Beech and there she was, same bark, same leaf, same twigs, same overall shape. American Beech it is, thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

Ox

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sandsawmill14

Quote from: Ox on October 21, 2016, 06:15:30 PM
Don't ya love learning?  I cherish learning.  My biggest problem is I have so much stored up it feels like something has to be forgotten in order to make room for new stuff.

ox  i must keep my memory on a flash drive because i will have it and in a flash its gone ::) :D :D :D seems it gets a little worse every year :o ::) :)
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Al_Smith

It doesn't get any better either .I was a 1/2 mile down the road last week when I discovered I was missing me store bought teeth . Geese

Ox

 :D sand and Al  Glad I ain't the lone ranger!
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Coffee_Creek

You guys better not EVER have a stroke, I had one last April and my memory, well, I don't have one.....
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Ox

You devil, you... :laugh:
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Al_Smith

Well a convenient memory does have some merit at times.


sandsawmill14

Quote from: Al_Smith on October 23, 2016, 03:56:11 AM
Well a convenient memory does have some merit at times.
:D :D :D :D
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Coffee_Creek

Well, the big beech is on the ground  8) that's a 32" bar....



thecfarm

Hole in the middle. Looks like mine.
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Ox

Good job.  Sucks the butt log is compromised, huh? 
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Coffee_Creek

It does suck, I was hoping to have it milled  :'(

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