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Is this an Ash?
« on: October 20, 2016, 09:56:14 am »
I'm clearing a site to build a new house on and have two of these that have to come down, I was told they ate Ash. Are they any good for lumber or firewood?















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Re: Is this an Ash?
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2016, 11:32:21 am »
Ain't Ash.  Looks like Beech to me.
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Re: Is this an Ash?
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2016, 12:07:16 pm »
I would have also voted beech.....had someone tell me from eastern part of state that what I call beech is actually burr oak....never heard that before.....someone enlighten me please.

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Re: Is this an Ash?
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2016, 12:22:28 pm »
definitely not Ash. Looks like beech to me as well.

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Re: Is this an Ash?
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2016, 02:27:19 pm »
I vote a beech of some sort.  Ash has similar leaves but much rougher bark with up/down furrows in it.
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Re: Is this an Ash?
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2016, 07:43:43 pm »
If it's beech, would the trunk be worth sawing 4/4 for flooring, siding, trim?

Would make decent firewood?

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Re: Is this an Ash?
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2016, 11:53:55 pm »
makes good firewood  i dont know about flooring but it does get really hard to drive nails in after it dries :)
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Re: Is this an Ash?
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2016, 05:23:58 am »
It gets about as hard as concrete to be quite honest about it .

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Re: Is this an Ash?
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2016, 06:49:40 am »
I would have also voted beech.....had someone tell me from eastern part of state that what I call beech is actually burr oak....never heard that before.....someone enlighten me please.

burr oak will have a leaf similar to other white oaks and have huge acorns. the beech is what is in the picture above and the nuts are small and kinda pointed. we dont have burr oak around here but i seen plenty in mo and some east of us so i cant get a pic but i can get pics of beech and ash logs at the mill later if i dont forget ::) :D
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Re: Is this an Ash?
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2016, 07:39:59 am »
Ash leaves are compound.  Beech leaves are simple.  Ash has an opposite branching pattern, beech has an alternating branching pattern. 
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Re: Is this an Ash?
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2016, 02:08:26 pm »
If it is ash it must be the sub species Fraxinus horizontalis.
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Re: Is this an Ash?
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2016, 04:29:38 pm »
Ash and beech look nothing alike.  (At least to me, moi, or myself). 
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Re: Is this an Ash?
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2016, 06:05:25 pm »
Thanks to all of you guys for your imput, you have pointed me in the right direction. My wife bought me a book " Native Trees of the Southeast" an identification guide. Only problem is if you don't at least have an idea you can look throught it for hours. I went to Beech and there she was, same bark, same leaf, same twigs, same overall shape. American Beech it is, thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

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Re: Is this an Ash?
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2016, 06:15:30 pm »
Don't ya love learning?  I cherish learning.  My biggest problem is I have so much stored up it feels like something has to be forgotten in order to make room for new stuff.
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Re: Is this an Ash?
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2016, 07:33:49 pm »
Don't ya love learning?  I cherish learning.  My biggest problem is I have so much stored up it feels like something has to be forgotten in order to make room for new stuff.

ox  i must keep my memory on a flash drive because i will have it and in a flash its gone ::) :D :D :D seems it gets a little worse every year :o ::) :)
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Re: Is this an Ash?
« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2016, 04:11:18 am »
It doesn't get any better either .I was a 1/2 mile down the road last week when I discovered I was missing me store bought teeth . Geese

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« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2016, 10:27:48 am »
 :D sand and Al  Glad I ain't the lone ranger!
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« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2016, 10:41:07 pm »
You guys better not EVER have a stroke, I had one last April and my memory, well, I don't have one.....
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« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2016, 11:19:36 pm »
You devil, you... :laugh:
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Re: Is this an Ash?
« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2016, 03:56:11 am »
Well a convenient memory does have some merit at times.


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« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2016, 08:46:47 am »
Well a convenient memory does have some merit at times.
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« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2016, 02:15:16 pm »
Well, the big beech is on the ground  8) that's a 32" bar....



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Re: Is this an Ash?
« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2016, 03:27:11 pm »
Hole in the middle. Looks like mine.
I cut one and was making my notch and water started to pour out of the notch. At the time I had no idea what was going on. I never had seen it or heard about it. I shut the saw off and wondered what was going on. When I first saw it,my saw was still in the notch and I thought it was gas.  ::) Quite a bit of water came out too.
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« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2016, 03:27:47 pm »
Good job.  Sucks the butt log is compromised, huh? 
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« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2016, 07:44:13 pm »
It does suck, I was hoping to have it milled  :'(

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« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2016, 09:43:30 pm »
You still have 4 faces.  Just saw lumber until the hole is all that remains.
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« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2016, 09:47:02 pm »
You still have 4 faces.  Just saw lumber until the hole is all that remains.

x2 the beech around here is always hollow like that if its of any size  :) about 14-16" dia is the biggest i have ever seen that was sound :-\
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« Reply #27 on: October 24, 2016, 09:55:02 pm »
The hole is just the middle, plenty of good lumber around it...Even veneer rotary logs can have a hole in the middle.
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« Reply #28 on: October 26, 2016, 07:11:48 am »
That's my plan, the othwer tree 30 yards away with rough looking bark has a solid looking center and it's only slightly smaller, both will go to the mill.

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« Reply #29 on: October 31, 2016, 06:18:34 am »
A lot of times if you get up above the center rot it contains good wood .Fact I've got the logs from a 90 foot ash the bottom 8 feet was hollow .Pretty good looking stuff .The butt log was just firewood which is not a total lose .

On the other end from a 100 footer,ash it was hollow near the top,wind blown .Big one,over 1000 bd feet of saw log and a cord and a half of firewood --use it all .