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Started by Magicman, September 22, 2016, 08:34:43 PM

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Percy

Careless sawyer ordering 5 beers
GOLDEN RULE : The guy with the gold, makes the rules.

Magicman

Or three beers and two shots.   :o
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tnaz


Brucer

Quote from: Peter Drouin on September 23, 2016, 06:17:05 AM
With a faster feed rate that will not happen. ...

Careful ;D.

With blades moving at the speed they do (and being made of spring steel) almost anything can happen. I've seen dozens of examples on this forum over the years.

The most common break I've had is the blade snapping at one point inside the blade housing. Sometimes it's easy to get it out, sometimes it's a tangled mess.

One thing that's happened to me (quite a few times) is to have a crack start in 2 or 3 places. If the cracks are 6-12 inches apart, then a piece will often come flying out the chute. Usually it hits the fingers and drops to the ground. Once a 3" long piece turned 90 degrees, passed between two fingers, and kind of tumbled down the chute. I think if it had been longer it would have sliced through the chute.

The strangest one I've seen didn't actually break. My friend Jim asked me to sharpen a few blades for him and brought them over in the back of his pickup (he never folds them). Most of them were damaged in some way but the one that had me  :o had multiple cracks in it. As in, 38 cracks. All of them were in the middle portion of the blade. Not a single crack had started in the gullet or on the back of the blade -- just a bunch of isolated cracks in the middle. As soon as I flexed the blade it would break at a crack. Each crack as clearly caused by fatigue (which is nearly always the case when a blade breaks normally. I have absolutely no idea how so many cracks (or even one) could start away from the edge like that.
Bruce    LT40HDG28 bandsaw
"Complex problems have simple, easy to understand wrong answers."

Peter Drouin

Brucer, I have a CBN sharpener and grind heavy. I find it removes cracks well . The 1¼x55x7 will last a long time. ;D
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45' of Wood Mizer, cutting since 1987.
License NH softwood grader.

goose63

I don't know how many time's Ihave told people to stay away from that end two guy's that were helping me would be right there to grab the bucket when it was full I would stop the mill and tell them to get the hell away from there.

When MM put those pictures on here I made coppys of them now Ican show them why thay need to stay away from there
goose
if you find your self in a deep hole stop digging
saw logs all day what do you get lots of lumber and a day older
thank you to all the vets

Peter Drouin

I caught one before it popped.


 
A&P saw Mill LLC.
45' of Wood Mizer, cutting since 1987.
License NH softwood grader.

Percy

Quote from: Peter Drouin on September 27, 2016, 08:44:11 PM
I caught one before it popped.


 
Is that blood on the blade???? Or are you cutting meat in your spare time??? :D :D
GOLDEN RULE : The guy with the gold, makes the rules.

Magicman

I am stealing Peter's thunder, but I also use paint on the weld to quickly identify blade profiles.  Red for 7° & green for 4°.  10° blades get no paint.
Knothole Sawmill, LLC     '98 Wood-Mizer LT40SuperHydraulic   WM Million BF Club Member   WM Pro Sawyer Network

It's Weird being the Same Age as Old People

Never allow your "need" to make money to exceed your "desire" to provide quality service.....The Magicman

Peter Drouin

Red Ink to mark the weld for sharpening. All the blades are the same profile.
Magicman you can have any of my thunder you can steal. ;D
A&P saw Mill LLC.
45' of Wood Mizer, cutting since 1987.
License NH softwood grader.

Chuck White

I use a cheap nail polish to mark the weld when I set and sharpen my blades.

Just makes it easier to see.
~Chuck~  Cooks Cat Claw sharpener and single tooth setter.  2018 Chevy Silverado and 2021 Subaru Ascent.
With basic mechanical skills and the ability to read you can maintain a Woodmizer  LT40!

4x4American

I use a sharpie to write on all my blades, never had a problem, and, if you don't heat up the blade too much you can sometimes make out the code you write on the blade if you forgot what it was.
Boy, back in my day..

5quarter

Chuck...I ain't askin where you get the cheap nail polish.  ;) ;D
What is this leisure time of which you speak?
Blue Harbor Refinishing

boscojmb

I added plywood to the inside of my band wheel covers. The plywood stops broken bands dead in their tracks.




If you have enough room to add plywood; it will stop broken blades from getting tangled up in your band wheels, it will also keep you safe.



John B.

Log-Master LM4

Brucer

Quote from: Peter Drouin on September 26, 2016, 06:09:01 AM
Brucer, I have a CBN sharpener and grind heavy. I find it removes cracks well. ...

Interesting point. Now that I think of it, I haven't had any multiple breaks since I started sharpening my own blades.
Bruce    LT40HDG28 bandsaw
"Complex problems have simple, easy to understand wrong answers."

Peter Drouin

With the CBN my blades last longer and are very sharp.
A&P saw Mill LLC.
45' of Wood Mizer, cutting since 1987.
License NH softwood grader.

Chuck White

Quote from: 5quarter on September 28, 2016, 11:21:00 PM
Chuck...I ain't askin where you get the cheap nail polish.  ;) ;D

Well, since you brought it up, I get it at the Dollar Tree store.   ;D

Works good and easy to see.
~Chuck~  Cooks Cat Claw sharpener and single tooth setter.  2018 Chevy Silverado and 2021 Subaru Ascent.
With basic mechanical skills and the ability to read you can maintain a Woodmizer  LT40!

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