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Re: Homemade Portables Bandsaw Sawmill Progress And Questions :) UPDATED DAILY :)
« Reply #120 on: February 18, 2017, 07:18:51 pm »
Kb, look at a cheap floor jack. Everything you need for a nice hydraulic tensioner. Drill and tap a hole in the right place, screw in a 3000 psi pressure gauge. Look in arnold113's gallery...
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« Reply #121 on: February 28, 2017, 01:33:30 am »
Would a cheap bottle jack be able to hold that pressure on its side for long periods of time ?
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Hi, Whats the standed blade lengths around 5m (200")

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My mill uses 229" bands. I have never had any trouble getting them.

It looks like Cooks uses 202" and 210".

Manufactures in New Zealand may have different standard sizes.

Would a cheap bottle jack be able to hold that pressure on its side for long periods of time ?

Yes, it will. As long as you mount it with the pump side down, so that it can pick up fluid, the jack does not care what position it is in. (With larger mills you need to relieve the tension when you are not sawing.)
You will need to mount a gauge on the jack. Using a caliper and clamps, apply the proper strain to the blade, record the pressure, and apply the same pressure every time you saw.

Folks with smaller mills can get away with leaving tension (strain) on the blade overnight. I have accidentally left strain on my blade overnight on several occasions  and the next day the blade did not make it through the first 15 minutes.  :-\ :-\
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Carriage :

 I cut two pieces of 150 x 50mm (6 x 2 " ) box section 1500mm ( 5ft ) long for my carriage, then put 5mm end caps on them.





Then welded 2 60x10mm with 25mm holes in them for my V wheels



The other side of the wheel mounts unbolt and has a little ledge to hook under my bed so that the carriage can't fall over



I then cut 4 gussets and 2 pieces of box section 2000mm long for my uprights









I  also made 2 slides out of 5 x 50 mm ( 1/4" x 2" ) angle iron and 5mm ( 1/4 " ) plate



I bought a bandsaw blade for $105 from www.bandsaw.co.nz



I decided to use these bigger wheels that have an outside diameter of 700mm ( 27")





I will be able to get a little over 1200mm of cut
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Re: Homemade Portables Bandsaw Sawmill Progress And Questions :)
« Reply #124 on: April 15, 2017, 11:37:00 am »
With those wheels, you may have issues with set on the blade.  You either need a tire that has a pretty good crown (think round profile) or you may need to cut part of the tread away to make a relief for the teeth. NICE welding.
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Re: Homemade Portables Bandsaw Sawmill Progress And Questions :)
« Reply #125 on: April 15, 2017, 01:32:09 pm »
I also see a problem with using tires-With that wide of a cut,you may have trouble,getting proper tension on your Band...
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Re: Homemade Portables Bandsaw Sawmill Progress And Questions :)
« Reply #126 on: April 15, 2017, 04:52:04 pm »
With those wheels, you may have issues with a set on the blade.  You either need a tire that has a pretty good crown (think round profile) or you may need to cut part of the tread away to make a relief for the teeth. NICE welding.

I probably will grind a little out for the teeth and I am also running my drive belt on my tire as well because I can find a 27" pulley.

Thanks, I don't know about "Nice Welding" But they will hold


I also see a problem with using tires-With that wide of a cut, you may have trouble, getting proper tension on your Band...

I was thinking that but I'm just hoping that I can.
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Re: Homemade Portables Bandsaw Sawmill Progress And Questions :)
« Reply #127 on: April 15, 2017, 06:29:12 pm »
Thanks, I don't know about "Nice Welding" But they will hold

Welding thin wall stock is a real challenge for me.  Either it comes out pretty good or I blow through it.  Usually the latter.
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« Reply #128 on: April 15, 2017, 09:01:33 pm »
Thanks, I don't know about "Nice Welding" But they will hold

Welding thin wall stock is a real challenge for me.  Either it comes out pretty good or I blow through it.  Usually the latter.

Try a 1/16" rod...
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« Reply #129 on: April 15, 2017, 09:56:20 pm »
Actually, I picked up some 3/32" stainless to work on some 1/8" stainless sheet for a sailboat rudder project.  I used a few sticks to weld on some hinges to some thin tube stock.  Worked pretty well.  Then I found in my stash some 1/16" and found it worked pretty well on thin wall.  I had to dial my Lincoln welder to the lowest setting - 60 amps.  It was just barely hot enough to flow well.  I bumped it up to 75 and all it would do is just melt the rod - poof - limp spaghetti!
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« Reply #130 on: April 15, 2017, 10:10:43 pm »
I like to burn them hot. I use 1/2 a rod and put it down for a new one.
After it cools I finish it up.
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« Reply #131 on: April 17, 2017, 04:54:44 am »
This box section isn't too thin it 3mm (1/8") its as about as thin as I can neatly weld without too many holes :)
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« Reply #132 on: April 24, 2017, 05:01:49 am »
I backed my trailer part of my mill into the shed to work on my carriage



I then cut and notched a bit of box section for the top then welded it in



This was my first attempt at upside down welding (MIG)



I welded 2 braces onto the bottom and 2 on top to hold it while welding.



Lifted it off then welding in 2 corner braces





I then setup my saw head to weld in 



I then made 2 gussets out of 5mm plate and welded them in





I have decided to use larger 6 stud wheels that are 700mm ( 27" ish ) outside butI have already welded stubs to a shaft for hubs that I have, so I need to make some hub spaces.

I started by cutting 2 200mm (8") out of 12mm plate



Our circle cutting jig for out plasma couldn't go down small enough so I had to free hand them. To true them up I drilled a 16mm hole in the center and held it on a piece of threaded rod on our "New Lathe"





I then bored the middle out to be a tight fit on the hub and then drilled 10 holes 4 to line up with my hubs and 6 to line up with my rims



I then turned a lip to be a tight fit on the inside of my rim



I then drilled my hole out to 14mm then tapped them to M16 and cut then cut 20 pieces of M16 rod 40mm for stubs







I also made 2 pulleys for my lifting my saw head



For my adjusting wheel, I made a slide out of 5mm plate





Then made a mounting plate to hold my wheel with u bolts (I made those holes into slots)






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« Reply #133 on: April 24, 2017, 07:57:46 am »
Lookin good...
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« Reply #134 on: October 19, 2017, 04:47:37 am »
I then welded on the mounting plate that will hold my wheel to the slide. With 2 nuts on top to tension the blade and 4 on underneath to track the blade.





The wheel adapters work well (after my uncle who is a machinist trued them up a bit.)



I also mounted the statinaie side





Starting to look wheelie good :)



I then started to make my blade guides out of 40mm stainless steel and 2 26mm bearings.









I made my motor mount out of 8mm plate and 125x50mm (5x2") box section with an M16 (5/8") blot to adjust the blade tension.









( will add another photo of the motor fully mounted soon )

I then started on mounting the system for lifting the saw head up and down. I am using 12 tooth sprockets and 1/2" chain (i think). In the photos there is an electric mobility scoter motor but I had to replace that with a worm drive gear box because the electric motor would free wheel. I made chain tensions for both ends of the chain to aline the saw head with the bed and to keep the chains tight.











Next, I started on the guards. I chose to use aluminum checker plate with an angle iron frame around it. The front of the guards will hinge upwards so I can change the blade.







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« Reply #135 on: October 19, 2017, 09:09:41 am »
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Just a little food for thought.  I had used a long bolt as my tensioner.  I found that the threads would not hold up.  I then stole and ideal from member Ljohn on this site.  I switched out the bolt with a sissor jack that I took apart.  The threads on the sissor jack are much hardier.  Your threaded rod might be thick enough that you never have a problim but I thought I would throw this out for you if you ever do have a problim.  I wish I could weld as well as some of your welds look.
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« Reply #136 on: October 19, 2017, 09:28:52 am »
Beautiful welds. Your shop looks a lot like mine  ;D Best deal for blade tensioner is the cylinder and pump from a hydraulic floor jack. plumb in a 0-3000 psi pressure gauge. Look in Arnold113's picture gallery...Don't think you will like the screw setup...
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« Reply #137 on: October 19, 2017, 12:37:26 pm »
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Just a little food for thought.  I had used a long bolt as my tensioner.  I found that the threads would not hold up.  I then stole and ideal from member Ljohn on this site.  I switched out the bolt with a sissor jack that I took apart.  The threads on the sissor jack are much hardier.  Your threaded rod might be thick enough that you never have a problim but I thought I would throw this out for you if you ever do have a problim.  I wish I could weld as well as some of your welds look.
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