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Started by Clark, August 29, 2016, 03:22:50 PM

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Clark

Here's one for all the experts:







Clark
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Jeff

We only need the three letter word expert. :D  WDH
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cliffreaves


thecfarm

Quote from: Jeff on August 29, 2016, 03:51:11 PM
We only need the three letter word wood expert. :D  WDH

He'll figure it out.  ;D
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WDH

From the end grain, sure looks basswoody. 
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Ox

*Nods head and tips hat in direction of WDH then looks back to Clark*

See, that was easy.  Next?  ;D

Kinda reminds me of Crocodile Dundee II when the guy with the cowboy hat was sitting by the water.  The baddie comes out of the bush, guy offers him a beer.  Baddie says you shoulda brought a gun, not beer.  Guy says I don't need a gun, I've got a Donk.  Baddie says a what?  Big Donk spins him around, says a Donk, and knocks him out flat.

We don't need nothin' round here 'sides WDH.  :laugh:
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Clark

Not box elder.

Not basswood. 

Really, neither are even close.  :D

I do admit, I stretch the definition of "lumber" with this piece. It's only 1.5" wide and 21" long. That is the first hint.

The second hint is that this piece of lumber is at the complete opposite end of the North American hardwoods density spectrum from box elder and basswood. Using some rough measurements (the piece of "lumber" is curved and has wane) I get a density of 51.4 pounds/cubic foot.

Clark
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Tamarack

Moosewood,also called striped maple

WDH

Well, it is diffuse porous if that is any consolation  :)
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Clark

Quote from: WDH on August 30, 2016, 08:10:40 PM
Well, it is diffuse porous if that is any consolation  :)

This is true. No one has guessed a conifer...that would be way off.

Clark
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cliffreaves

51.4 dry or green?  Apple maybe?

WDH

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Clark

51.4 air dried.

Apple and dogwood? Both of those are much closer in several ways.

Clark
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Ox

You didn't saw up a sumac, did you?  Seems like I remember as a kid knifing those things at a steep diagonal cut and I'd see those darker bits.
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WV Sawmiller

   Not sure about the Minnesota address where posted but if southern I'd be guessing Sycamore or Sweetgum.
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WDH

Maybe it is serviceberry, Amelanchier arborea.
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Tamarack

how about hawthorn or eastern hop hornbeam?

Clark

Third time is the winner for WDH! Serviceberry is the correct answer. I will say Amelanchier but I wouldn't name a specific epithet.

Around here it rarely gets very big. Some sketchy information on the web told me it was quite dense so I kept my eyes peeled for a "big" one.  I happened across several that were ~4" DBH so I took the best looking one. After cutting around the rot I was left with a couple of pieces the size of the above "board". If I could find a chunk that was 10-12" in diameter I would be in business. I understand it grows larger in the south.

Clark
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Gary_C

Quote from: Clark on September 01, 2016, 09:46:34 AM
Third time is the winner for WDH! Serviceberry is the correct answer.

Clark, now you've got to show us a picture of it growing in your pine stands.  :D
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WDH

I have a pretty nice one on my property.  Maybe 10" in diameter.  It is also called shadbush because it flowers when the shad are running up the rivers on the east coast to spawn.  For more interesting info on this small tree, view this video.  The part about the "service" part of serviceberry is particularly interesting. 

http://dendro.cnre.vt.edu/dendrology/syllabus/factsheet.cfm?ID=9

Clark, you are sneaky  ;D. 
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Ron Scott

Well done! Good information.
~Ron

WDH

Had to dig a little deep for that one  headscratch.
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Bill Ragosta

I've got several on my property that are probably 8-10" as well.  I consider taking one for turkey calls because they're said to be so dense. 


Clark

Since I had fun making WDH scratch his head on this post before I think it is time for another!


 








If you answer Douglas fir because it is in the background you win a consolation prize. TBD. Probably not something you want to win.
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WDH

My very first impulsive reaction, without the wood brain engaged, was something birchy but that is much too easy given your penchant for being sneaky.... :).
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