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Hardwood lumber ID
« on: August 29, 2016, 03:22:50 pm »
Here's one for all the experts:







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Re: Hardwood lumber ID
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2016, 03:51:11 pm »
We only need the three letter word expert. :D  WDH
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Re: Hardwood lumber ID
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2016, 05:50:38 pm »
I'm gonna guess box elder.

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Re: Hardwood lumber ID
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2016, 06:11:35 am »
We only need the three letter word wood expert. :D  WDH

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Re: Hardwood lumber ID
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2016, 08:20:08 am »
From the end grain, sure looks basswoody. 
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Re: Hardwood lumber ID
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2016, 10:41:56 am »
*Nods head and tips hat in direction of WDH then looks back to Clark*

See, that was easy.  Next?  ;D

Kinda reminds me of Crocodile Dundee II when the guy with the cowboy hat was sitting by the water.  The baddie comes out of the bush, guy offers him a beer.  Baddie says you shoulda brought a gun, not beer.  Guy says I don't need a gun, I've got a Donk.  Baddie says a what?  Big Donk spins him around, says a Donk, and knocks him out flat.

We don't need nothin' round here 'sides WDH.  :laugh:
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Re: Hardwood lumber ID
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2016, 05:12:08 pm »
Not box elder.

Not basswood. 

Really, neither are even close.  :D

I do admit, I stretch the definition of "lumber" with this piece. It's only 1.5" wide and 21" long. That is the first hint.

The second hint is that this piece of lumber is at the complete opposite end of the North American hardwoods density spectrum from box elder and basswood. Using some rough measurements (the piece of "lumber" is curved and has wane) I get a density of 51.4 pounds/cubic foot.

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Re: Hardwood lumber ID
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2016, 08:03:44 pm »
Moosewood,also called striped maple

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Re: Hardwood lumber ID
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2016, 08:10:40 pm »
Well, it is diffuse porous if that is any consolation  :)
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Re: Hardwood lumber ID
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2016, 09:49:24 pm »
Well, it is diffuse porous if that is any consolation  :)

This is true. No one has guessed a conifer...that would be way off.

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Re: Hardwood lumber ID
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2016, 10:09:46 pm »
51.4 dry or green?  Apple maybe?

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Re: Hardwood lumber ID
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2016, 08:13:00 am »
Could be dogwood. 
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Re: Hardwood lumber ID
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2016, 08:28:27 am »
51.4 air dried.

Apple and dogwood? Both of those are much closer in several ways.

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Re: Hardwood lumber ID
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2016, 09:32:00 am »
You didn't saw up a sumac, did you?  Seems like I remember as a kid knifing those things at a steep diagonal cut and I'd see those darker bits.
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Re: Hardwood lumber ID
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2016, 11:38:56 pm »
   Not sure about the Minnesota address where posted but if southern I'd be guessing Sycamore or Sweetgum.
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Re: Hardwood lumber ID
« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2016, 07:34:56 am »
Maybe it is serviceberry, Amelanchier arborea.
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Re: Hardwood lumber ID
« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2016, 08:25:31 am »
how about hawthorn or eastern hop hornbeam?

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Re: Hardwood lumber ID
« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2016, 09:46:34 am »
Third time is the winner for WDH! Serviceberry is the correct answer. I will say Amelanchier but I wouldn't name a specific epithet.

Around here it rarely gets very big. Some sketchy information on the web told me it was quite dense so I kept my eyes peeled for a "big" one.  I happened across several that were ~4" DBH so I took the best looking one. After cutting around the rot I was left with a couple of pieces the size of the above "board". If I could find a chunk that was 10-12" in diameter I would be in business. I understand it grows larger in the south.

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Re: Hardwood lumber ID
« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2016, 01:15:41 pm »
Third time is the winner for WDH! Serviceberry is the correct answer.

Clark, now you've got to show us a picture of it growing in your pine stands.  :D
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Re: Hardwood lumber ID
« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2016, 07:29:44 am »
I have a pretty nice one on my property.  Maybe 10" in diameter.  It is also called shadbush because it flowers when the shad are running up the rivers on the east coast to spawn.  For more interesting info on this small tree, view this video.  The part about the "service" part of serviceberry is particularly interesting. 

http://dendro.cnre.vt.edu/dendrology/syllabus/factsheet.cfm?ID=9

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Re: Hardwood lumber ID
« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2016, 05:56:24 pm »
Well done! Good information.
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Re: Hardwood lumber ID
« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2016, 08:25:21 pm »
Had to dig a little deep for that one  headscratch.
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Re: Hardwood lumber ID
« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2016, 05:48:33 am »
I've got several on my property that are probably 8-10" as well.  I consider taking one for turkey calls because they're said to be so dense.