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Puffergas

They took it in on trade from a farmer. Asking 10K for it. Said it's a working skidder.



10K seems kind of high. Am I wrong?? Oil under the 353 on the ground. 😉 I have not test drove it.



What ya think?
Jeff
Somewhere 20 miles south of Lake Erie.

GEHL 5624 skid steer, Trojan 114, Timberjack 225D, D&L SB1020 mill, Steiger Bearcat II

Spartan

Does the winch even work?  What will you use it for?  Around here 10K will get you a bigger newer line skidder.
Tires are a plus unless I cant see the dry rot.  I would track down that leak if you can to see what it will take to fix.

Test drive it hard and get everything up to temp.  Hopefully any weak links will show up.

Gearbox

make sure the tires are forestry not ag tires .
A bunch of chainsaws a BT6870 processer , TC 5 International track skidder and not near enough time

timberlinetree

I would by it in a heart beat!
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62oliver

From the pics it doesn't look like it is beat up too bad, the blade looks like new! To me rusty is good, not trying to cover up with a crappy paint job. I'd give it a good look, ASKING 10k, you'd get it for a lot less around here, good luck!!
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Mooseknuckle

Looks like my TJ, a 1965 model with the hydraulics at the side and hydraulic resevoir in the cab. I have the 1965 230H with 353 Detroit. Look through my album and you will se plenty of parts including the brass gear inside the winch. I had to replace both the brass gear and worm gear. That alone will run you over a grand for the parts. Just take the top cap nut off the winch on the drive side and shine a flashlight in, see what the brass gear looks like compared to the pictures of a new one in my album. I had to replace the seals as well in the worm gear housing as they were holding no oil. If the tires are forestry 10 to 12 ply, the winch works, runs good and tranny is decent i would say 6k- 8k but once again depends on demand in that specific area. I put a little over 2000.00 into my 230 and i still have to check the tranny now as it wont stay in 1st gear.  Not including my time i'll still be under 10K
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Mooseknuckle

I can't tell if thats a herculese winch or not. I think Neilo mentioned they went to Herculese in and around that era but i camt tell from the pics posted. Theres a 1974 225 on kijiji for 9500 in decent shape and working daily....check that site for price comparison. Lots of skidders on there......give u some leverage when negotiating if your interesed in buying it.
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Puffergas

Yes, it's a Herculese winch.

I would use it for my own wood lot.

To be honest I wanted an older gas skidder. They have so much class.. 😕 but I have 353 parts from my past life.
Jeff
Somewhere 20 miles south of Lake Erie.

GEHL 5624 skid steer, Trojan 114, Timberjack 225D, D&L SB1020 mill, Steiger Bearcat II

Puffergas

Judging from the photos the tires look agish.

Here's the winch.

Jeff
Somewhere 20 miles south of Lake Erie.

GEHL 5624 skid steer, Trojan 114, Timberjack 225D, D&L SB1020 mill, Steiger Bearcat II

Neilo

That is a pretty early machine. I guess 64 but would be interested in what id plate says.

Lots of parts will be different to later machines.

Looks like someone backed into a tree hard.

Bert

Somebody got rough with it. Never seen one with a bent log arch. If everything is in working order 10k seems abt right for pa. Just from the photos, i'd think abt 8k. Cable looks shot, and tires have seen better days. A detroits gonna leak so wouldnt worry too much abt that
Saw you tomorrow!

danbuendgen

I have never seen a TJ arch bent like that before.... I bet it's been beat on hard over the years. I would find there bottom dollar. I bet you anything they got it for next to nothing! Make sure the winch and brakes work well. Hook the winch cable up to that excavator or something heavy, and pull. If the winch and brakes work well, it should lift the front end of that skidder in the air. Look for cracks and leaks. The leaking Detroit would not bother me one bit. If a Detroit isn't leaking, there is no oil left in it! Those tires seem ok if they are Forestry rated. But with no tire chains....Bummer. Good ice picks will run you 4-5 grand for all four.
My Buddy is thinking about selling a 70' 230 TJ. Newer motor, rebuilt winch, good brakes, decent tires, new tire chains, good paint, tight pins, for 10k firm. Just something to think about. I would offer 5k and go from there. For 10k I think you could do better.
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coxy

also check the front cradle put the blade all the way down so the front wheels are off the ground and see how much play is in there by moving the wheels front to back my need 2 people to do this

Puffergas

Kind of changed the angle of the dangle. I guess just leave the cable out a few extra feet.



Any idea which levers work the winch? And is there a way to use them?



Maybe I could winch/skid this thing around. Looks like it belonged on a rail road track..



That's what I stopped to take a picture of and then spotted the 225 out back. Have a picture of the cable version also.
Jeff
Somewhere 20 miles south of Lake Erie.

GEHL 5624 skid steer, Trojan 114, Timberjack 225D, D&L SB1020 mill, Steiger Bearcat II

Ed_K

 380 k on the green one?
Ed K

Maine logger88

They make a cable L series!?
79 TJ 225 81 JD 540B Husky and Jonsered saws

Puffergas

Maybe this is the L version... I still think it looks like a train.

Jeff
Somewhere 20 miles south of Lake Erie.

GEHL 5624 skid steer, Trojan 114, Timberjack 225D, D&L SB1020 mill, Steiger Bearcat II

Neilo

The right lever of the three together is the winch. Must be running to operate.

PTO lever behind cab engaged, transfer case in neutral, centre. In gear on main trans. Lever back for free spool forward to winch. It rotates direction of transmission, forward gear winches in, reverse gear runs cable out.

Looks like has a np435 trans 4+ reverse, not reverser box.

Neilo

Maine logger88

Quote from: Puffergas on August 05, 2016, 10:13:38 PM
Maybe this is the L version... I still think it looks like a train.


Huh that's cool I didn't know they even made a cable anymore! They aren't very good looking we can thank emissions for that
79 TJ 225 81 JD 540B Husky and Jonsered saws

Decked

i've noticed that Deere sitting at the dealer in Waterford the last few weeks ( 5 star ..used to be Troyer's ) ... price ???

I bought a new 540D from Grotzinger in '86..78K...funny thing was, Autoworkers union was on strike at the time..so now new skidders ( Deere) being produced ..anyway...Troyer had a 640D for 6K more ...very tempting !! but Hammermill wouldn't hear of it  :(

barbender

The one thing I didn'the like about the old TJ I ran for a bit was that the engine had to be running to release the winch. That one would be a $4-6000 dollar machine here, but they seem to go for more out east. There were armies of cable skidder here, and then Boom! everything switched to mechanical harvesting quickly. So most old cable machines are on firewood duty around here. That's all mine does.  We don't have the combination of hills and big hardwoods you guys do out there.That, and some of our mills, UPM in particular, are moving to a shorter and shorter Aspen rotation- 30-35 years. I'd hate trying to make a living handfalling and cable skidding that stuff at 6-8"dbh.
Too many irons in the fire

Mooseknuckle

Heres my 230H 1965 Timberjack with a 1969 Detroit 353



  

  

 [img]https://forestryforum.com/gallery/alb
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danbuendgen

Quote from: barbender on August 06, 2016, 02:10:58 PM
So most old cable machines are on firewood duty around here. That's all mine does. 

Why don't they get cut with the harvester and forwarded out? I can see the need for a cable skidder in larger wood, but just for firewood?? Why not cut it and handle it mechanically? I don't get it.

Also, my 240 has the Gearmatic winch with the "brake master cylinder" type control, that takes brake fluid, and it can free spool with machine on or off. If it is powered by hydraulic oil, the machine needs to be running to free spool the winch.
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barbender

Danbuendgen, what I mean is most old cable skidder have been retired from active logging, and like my machine, they sit on someone's property and they might skid in the year's firewood with it.  I work on a CTL crew running forwarder, and yes, we cut everything mechanically. The only time we don't is if there are a few really large pine or something, that I will hand fell. If it is a job with a lot of large timber, it goes to one of our crews running equipment set up for it. Usually the conventional crew.
Too many irons in the fire

barbender

Mooseknuckle,  that's a sharp Jack ;)
Too many irons in the fire

Puffergas

Took another look at it after work today. I'm sold on Timberjack after getting in and out of it, getting old ya know. Nice small size. But this one might be a basket case. Some times I think I should walk away but Monday I'll give it a test drive if I can.

Sounds like the winch works about like how my doodle bug worked.



Here's the name plate.



Both axle pads look welded up, maybe because of the smashed arch. Or was this factory? Not the long weld but the piled weld around the axle pad. Sure don't feel good about the smashed arch.




Looks like the planetary axle was replaced.



Here's a walk around video.

https://youtu.be/a5_ax8gXjQs

I think I'll make one offer and if they don't take it I go home with my check book until the next Timberjack shows up.

Thanks everybody..!!
Jeff
Somewhere 20 miles south of Lake Erie.

GEHL 5624 skid steer, Trojan 114, Timberjack 225D, D&L SB1020 mill, Steiger Bearcat II

Puffergas

Oh, I forgot. The steering cylinder pin has a ton of slop. You can see it in the video. And judging from the brake pedal, there is not a drop of brakes unless the engine needs to be running.....
Jeff
Somewhere 20 miles south of Lake Erie.

GEHL 5624 skid steer, Trojan 114, Timberjack 225D, D&L SB1020 mill, Steiger Bearcat II

North River Energy

^That's not wear on that pin. It's the factory 'free-range' steering option. Save fuel by letting the machine find the path of least resistance.

Maine logger88

Those steering cyl pins and bushings are fairly cheap to do as long as the hole isn't all egged out. What would scare me the most about the whole deal is the farm tractor tires
79 TJ 225 81 JD 540B Husky and Jonsered saws

danbuendgen

After looking at your little video.... That skidder doesn't even have a seat left in it. I bet its got 100,000,000 hours on it. I could see dumping 10-15k into it easy. Unless you do all the work on your own. And even then... you will be in the garage for days and days. Weeks even. And with that kind of money/time, you could get something much better. I would offer no more then 5k. Remember, I bet they got it for cheap as a trade in. Like $500-$1000. You would be very surprised what dealers buy for a trade in. They make money selling new, not selling old. They take anything for trade if they can sell something new. What the heck, offer 2k and I bet that dealer is making money!
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timberlinetree

After taking a look at the video, I wouldnt pay that much,but up here they do bring good money. On Craig list the cheapest 225 is just about 10k ( a stripped one,just frame 2k) and as high as 18k. Must be everything is expensive in New England.
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Mooseknuckle

Thanks Barbender!! Put a lot of work into that old jack but well worth it. Always keep my eye open for a decent set of tires.....hell maybe win the lottery some day and really deck it out!! 8)

As per the 225. From the serial number its a 1964 probably the 394th machine made? And as Neilo filled me in about my 230H the 225H....."H" for Herculese.

Gonna take a look at the video now if my internet is working.  Always have issues with this Rural Wave Internet service.....nothing but trouble! :-\
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barbender

I know a guy up here that completely restored an old Tree Farmer, but he just couldn't  pull together the dough for new tires.
Too many irons in the fire

Mooseknuckle

Looked at the video and i dont like the play in that steering cylinder. I would say that will need some work. I Bet that winch worm and brass gear have some wear.  Not worth the 10k they are asking. 5 or under as im sure you will find some hiden gems once you get into it.
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Mooseknuckle

Yes Barbender, 4 new logging tires alone would increse the value by 10k!!! Just cant beleive the price of them.....1k a peice is what i thought they would be, but nope 1600 to 1800 plus the good old tax!! :o
Better to buy a set if chains for the front but they arnt cheap either!
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Mooseknuckle

 

  

 

I tried to crop the pics to getbthe price and listing out but couldnt figure it out. Anyways the top one is a 1968 TJ 330 with new rubber and in good running condition for 12500 and the bottom is a 520 TJ for 8500 in working order. So as you can see the price for the 225H is a tad bit on the steep side for the condition its in.
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Puffergas

I'm thinking 4500 set in my yard, 5500 tops.

I can stock up on used ag tires from auctions around here and that seat just needs a nice aspen plank sawed out for it.

Can I babbit that steering pin hole?
Jeff
Somewhere 20 miles south of Lake Erie.

GEHL 5624 skid steer, Trojan 114, Timberjack 225D, D&L SB1020 mill, Steiger Bearcat II

Neilo

I don't think there is a bush left in that pivot at all. I think you can make it a lot better without having to weld it and ream it again. There isn't a float amount of play in a tj from factory.

If I was you I would check other things before offering price, like operation and broken cradle.

Broken axle plates are common as you described.

Neilo

ohiowoodchuck

It's a 50 year old machine. I don't think your going to find a perfect 50 year old machine. I paid 10k for my 440b it's a 73 model. It needed some work. I would of bought a jack if I could of found one for that price. I kept a open mind when shopping. There all going to need work. The question is how much do you want to spend.
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barbender

IMO,  unless there is a shortage of old cable machines in your area, and you are really desperate for one, stay away. If they let that steering cylinder get that bad, which is in plain sight, what of the mechanical issues you can't see? That bent arch, I don't know how you would do that even if you were trying to. I'd have to get that for next to nothing to invest any time and money in it.
Too many irons in the fire

Spartan

Here's the hard fact.
Most likely because it is at a dealer, you will pay the premium for it.  If you want to get one for what it's really worth, private seller.
Always been that way, always will...


Spartan

Quote from: danbuendgen on August 06, 2016, 06:13:30 PM
Quote from: barbender on August 06, 2016, 02:10:58 PM
So most old cable machines are on firewood duty around here. That's all mine does. 

Why don't they get cut with the harvester and forwarded out? I can see the need for a cable skidder in larger wood, but just for firewood?? Why not cut it and handle it mechanically? I don't get it.

Also, my 240 has the Gearmatic winch with the "brake master cylinder" type control, that takes brake fluid, and it can free spool with machine on or off. If it is powered by hydraulic oil, the machine needs to be running to free spool the winch.

Don't know how it is out there, but around here if you were to go out and cut firewood only with a harvester, and forward it, you would go broke so fast it would make your head spin.
Not enough money in firewood for the demand out here...
Most firewood guys buy from loggers or the mill, and the only wood they sell is the left over junk that won't make a saw log.  And you have to have a self loader haul it out, so that's load and unload fees for the logger on top of the trucking fee that they have to pay the trucker too.

But that's here.  So if a guy were to bid a cut area for firewood only, naturally he would go with the cheapest equipment he could find that runs, which is an ancient line skidder that would no longer really be able to fulfill high production needs.  Newer grapple equipment would be out of the question. 

I run an older line skidder behind a buncher FWIW.  It's ok, grapple would be tough in our terrain to make productive(probably wouldn't get out of a lot of areas, so it would need to have a winch anyways) but would be easier on the body.  So a lot of variables as to what machine you run where and the budget you have.

Puffergas

You know guys, I really like the old TJ design and this machine would be nice to have for parts only. And here's why. After I fix it all up and paint it the arch would still be an eye sore.

Deal off and thanks for all the insight. 😀
Jeff
Somewhere 20 miles south of Lake Erie.

GEHL 5624 skid steer, Trojan 114, Timberjack 225D, D&L SB1020 mill, Steiger Bearcat II

Neilo

I gathered that you wanted it neat. I thought you would cut the arch off, straighten it and weld it back on.

danbuendgen

I bet someone dropped a tree on that arch.
I have a rugged tree pusher on my 240, I have pushed hard on trees before, and the arch is not bent one bit.
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Puffergas

I did think about cutting it up into small enough strips that I could straighten in my press but the list of problems might never end. I might be better off to spend the money on stuff for my skid steer. I don't have to have a skidder but in time that irresistible machine could show up. Might find an older historic machine that trips my trigger. Like the blue ox or early articulated machines.
Jeff
Somewhere 20 miles south of Lake Erie.

GEHL 5624 skid steer, Trojan 114, Timberjack 225D, D&L SB1020 mill, Steiger Bearcat II

Puffergas

I bet ya that old Jack when over a bank and hit a big old maple tree. What else could bend that arch..
Jeff
Somewhere 20 miles south of Lake Erie.

GEHL 5624 skid steer, Trojan 114, Timberjack 225D, D&L SB1020 mill, Steiger Bearcat II

Puffergas

Is the 230 about the same machine as the 225? I don't know the year yet.
Jeff
Somewhere 20 miles south of Lake Erie.

GEHL 5624 skid steer, Trojan 114, Timberjack 225D, D&L SB1020 mill, Steiger Bearcat II

coxy

I would make an offer on it if they go for the money you told them so be it as far as the arch goes big deal its bent it don't have to be pretty  pretty don't pay the bills in my house old and ugly does  :) :) :) :)

North River Energy

QuoteWhat else could bend that arch..

Chuck Norris. Roundhouse kick.

Neilo

Quote from: Puffergas on August 08, 2016, 09:30:58 PM
I bet ya that old Jack when over a bank and hit a big old maple tree. What else could bend that arch..

Maybe a back flip

timberlinetree

On a rock... Don't think I have every seen one bent. Do they bend easy?  Ours needed a paint job. Instead of $1400, 2 kids, some rollers and brushes , 2 gal and couple rattle cans of tsc allis orange paint and a little complaining. Of course nice paint doesn't pay the bills.

 
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Puffergas

Ugly? No, no, no, no. Not interested in the two green things. 😮

I'll try it out and if it poops and farts I'll offer 3500. Can't go wrong there.
Jeff
Somewhere 20 miles south of Lake Erie.

GEHL 5624 skid steer, Trojan 114, Timberjack 225D, D&L SB1020 mill, Steiger Bearcat II

danbuendgen

Quote from: Puffergas on August 08, 2016, 09:30:58 PM
I bet ya that old Jack when over a bank and hit a big old maple tree. What else could bend that arch..

First off, rolling a skidder wont bend an arch like that. I know a fair amount of loggers that have rolled skidders, and none of those skidders have bent arches. I know a guy that rolled a 240 down a mountain, it rolled many times, the arch and cab are just fine. Can't even tell it was rolled over....
I still think someone dropped a tree on the skidders arch. I have never seen an arch bend before..... It would take a tremendous amount of force to bend that. The only thing I could ever imagine being capable of producing that much force in the woods would be a falling tree. A large one. Not some pulp/firewood tree.

The only difference in the 225 and 230 is the tire and rim size (I think). I have operated both, and that is the only difference I know of. The 230 often has the 18.4-34 or very occasionally 23.1-26. The 225 always has the smaller size, 16.9-30. Other then that they should be the same machine. I would go for the 225 over a 230 if I had a choice, the smaller tire and rim gives you a bit less ground clearance, but makes it more stable. And the smaller tire lowers the overall gear ratio, so it gives the machine a bit more torque. Plus tires and tire chains are cheaper. But overall can't beat a 240 in operating cost, power, and stability. A 240 is much more capable compared to a 225 or 230.

GOOD LUCK.
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Puffergas

Thanks for the 230 info..

By going over a bank I mean on all four and rolling backwards at a high speed then hitting the arch on a large tree. Or dropped out of an airplane.  Just saying.. ☺
Jeff
Somewhere 20 miles south of Lake Erie.

GEHL 5624 skid steer, Trojan 114, Timberjack 225D, D&L SB1020 mill, Steiger Bearcat II

Spartan

or a heavy machine hit it, backed into it, crushed it, etc.....

I was in a 518 when a delimber head swung and hit the roll cage at full tilt.  Bent it pretty good.  Man what a bell ringer...

timberlinetree

It made a big difference switch n to the 23.1-26 for us. Lot better on hills and soft ground.The 230 super e has a longer frame from what I been told. I think 230 has bigger axles? Good luck!
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coxy

from what iv been told the older 225 had the smaller rears from the factory the newer ones had the pr75s we have a few around here that guys stuffed the bigger eaton rears in

danbuendgen

Quote from: timberlinetree on August 11, 2016, 05:32:15 AM
It made a big difference switch n to the 23.1-26 for us. Lot better on hills and soft ground.

I have operated TJ's with both 18.4-34 and the 23.1-26 and I agree, the 23.1-26 is better for the area I live in. Less ground clearance, but more stable, and they don't tend to "dig" as much in the mud. However, the 18.4-34 is better in deep snow.
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Puffergas

I've had the most luck with narrow tires, snow country..

Anyhow, I called the sales dude and let him know I'll be there about 4:00 to see how it runs. He said "great I'll find the keys and let someone know because I'll be gone" or something like that. I said that your not going to find keys for that machine.....

I show up on time or a bit early. See the service man and he doesn't know anything about it. But he'll see if he can find the keys..!!! I told him that might be a problem so he told me to go out and give it a try. So out I go.

I get a few clicks but not enough to turn it over. Go back to ask for a jump but service man is on the phone talking about the guys going to Trump Riot in town. OK, now we know where the sales dude went. A stuffed shirt in an office ran away from me so I waited some more on the service man to get off the phone BSing.

So I go out side to play with the TJ. Found out that the big gear in the winch is paper thin. Founda u-joint about ready to let loose but that's nothing.

Go back in and still BSing on the phone. SO I can see that I'm getting the run-a-round..  Time to take my check book back home. I feel sad about not being able to save a TJ from the junk yard but I'll find someone else to deal with.

Down the road I paid more than I could have for a skid steer and tractor but the man spent time with me, got stuff started, repaired and etc. Sure glad I gave them my business and not some where else.

At least I learned about TJs and when I find a 225 I would be interested in stocking up on some of those small axles that people like to replace with larger ones.

Long Live Timberjack..!!
Jeff
Somewhere 20 miles south of Lake Erie.

GEHL 5624 skid steer, Trojan 114, Timberjack 225D, D&L SB1020 mill, Steiger Bearcat II

Ed_K

 It's a shame people don't care enough to work at selling a machine once in a while. That could come back later in a sale of a new piece of equipment. The Oliver stores up at Bangor expo treated me the same way.
If you don't have a big check book they don't / won't even acknowledge you. And they do check bank accounts and c/c cards.
Ed K

danbuendgen

From the sound of it, that 225 was not cared for, and is a piece of trash scrap metal at this point, and so is that dealer. Better to go with a private sale and find a good machine. GOOD LUCK TJ shopping.

Just looked on Craigslist and found these, they seem much better then the one you were looking at a bit more money, but you get what you pay for.

http://vermont.craigslist.org/hvo/5686928745.html

http://vermont.craigslist.org/hvo/5707811240.html

http://vermont.craigslist.org/hvo/5675799716.html

I like the look of the second one. Francis Brown did a lot of work on it, he is the best TJ mechanic in our area. I see you are in PA, not too close to VT, but there are a lot a decent little skidders around here.
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Puffergas

Those are some nice Jacks.

Anybody deal with Buddy's in Amherst, VA? He has a 225E with almost new tires all the way around for 11.5K.
Jeff
Somewhere 20 miles south of Lake Erie.

GEHL 5624 skid steer, Trojan 114, Timberjack 225D, D&L SB1020 mill, Steiger Bearcat II

shawn55

Im selling my 1970 225d if your looking.


so il logger

Quote from: Puffergas on August 12, 2016, 09:47:28 PM
Those are some nice Jacks.

Anybody deal with Buddy's in Amherst, VA? He has a 225E with almost new tires all the way around for 11.5K.

Sold a nice one last summer. Got 9k out of it, seems them little tractors bring more money out east. From my experience for what you plan to do with one a 225 is perfect. If i ever had to go back to a cable timberjack a 225 or 230 would be my pick. 240 with a detroit never hit it off well here. Not enough power for the weight class.

timberlinetree

I like poken around buddys, neat place ( cool to look  for stuff place). Been there couple of times. He has a lot of stuff out back although it has been five years or so since I be been there. We bought our 230e not far from there. I don't think they use cable skidders as much as they use to and my brother had trouble finding someone with one to work steep land near the James river.
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danbuendgen

"240 with a detroit never hit it off well here. Not enough power for the weight class."

I'm not sure on that. I have operated lots of Timberjacks, and a 240 has much more power then a 230. It's night and day difference. And is much more stable on side hills. My 240 can pull 2000 feet of pine or hardwood, lucky to do half that with a 230.
Just my .02
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Puffergas

Shawn55, that's a nice looking machine but so far away I bet trucking would be a major problem.
Jeff
Somewhere 20 miles south of Lake Erie.

GEHL 5624 skid steer, Trojan 114, Timberjack 225D, D&L SB1020 mill, Steiger Bearcat II

shawn55

i just bought a 230a from Pennsylvania and had it trucked to minnesota for $2,200 i know a trucking outfit that is out there 2 times a week.

so il logger

Quote from: danbuendgen on August 13, 2016, 06:35:32 AM
"240 with a detroit never hit it off well here. Not enough power for the weight class."

I'm not sure on that. I have operated lots of Timberjacks, and a 240 has much more power then a 230. It's night and day difference. And is much more stable on side hills. My 240 can pull 2000 feet of pine, lucky to do half that with a 230.
Just my .02
Pine must be lighter wood than hickory or oak. Or even sycamore. My 450c will drag 2000ft, but its easier on the tractor sometimes to buck a huge tree in half before skidding. The max we have put behind a 225 was 1000 ft. We had 2 different 240's and they done no better. Could work a 225 all day on maybe 10-15 gallons of fuel. They are tough machines. I wish my 450 was so good on fuel

Puffergas

Never guess what I found by searching for info on the Steiger Logger 850 skidder.... This old Jack. The mother company has it listed at a ny location but it's still here. We decided it's worth up to 3k and they were asking 10K but now in ny they have a nice new price tag on it at the tune of 18k...!!!!!!!!! 😯

Be careful out there!
Jeff
Somewhere 20 miles south of Lake Erie.

GEHL 5624 skid steer, Trojan 114, Timberjack 225D, D&L SB1020 mill, Steiger Bearcat II

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