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Re: F350 Dually or single?
« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2016, 08:46:06 am »
Oh, I see, it's what we call a 3 point turn.  ;D
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Re: F350 Dually or single?
« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2016, 08:52:47 am »
Thanks all!  Great feedback.

I suspect that a single may do the job since I wouldn't be hauling a camper (or lumber) all the time.  If I had one now though I would have used it the last each of the last three weekends and next also!  So I don't know. ???

I will be hauling the mill though, and often 100-150 miles each way..my next job is in Chelan (if I do it that is) which is over 100 miles...and I have a potential job in Idaho (204 miles) so I'm finding I'll spend a lot of road time and if pulling the mill I could get better fuel mileage than 10mpg it would be worth it.

Breaking will also be better than my F150 no matter which I go with me thinks.  I saw the rear brakes smoking coming down a long steep hill to a stop 3 weeks ago.  I added some bias to the trailer brakes after that but don't like the pull I feel on it with that much bias...gotta get those checked.

Anyway, I wonder if there is much difference in mileage.  I've been told no but I can't see that as posted earlier there are some differences (width, aero, friction etc).
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Re: F350 Dually or single?
« Reply #22 on: August 04, 2016, 04:17:46 pm »
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Re: F350 Dually or single?
« Reply #23 on: August 04, 2016, 04:22:47 pm »
Just my 2 cents I had a 1999 chevy dually 4x4 with a 454 tow anything I wanted to with a smooth ride and it would tow it at 100 mph if I wanted to. the gas mileage was about 17 mpg empty and about 10 - 12 mpg towing anything. I also used it for snowplowing as long as I had good tires I could plow in 2wd but if the snow was deep I had to use 4 x 4 Tires I had were Michlin m/s tires they made all the difference 

 

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Re: F350 Dually or single?
« Reply #24 on: August 04, 2016, 04:51:40 pm »
That sawmill weighs close to 4,000 pounds, so do not expect to get a significant increase in fuel mileage.
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Re: F350 Dually or single?
« Reply #25 on: August 04, 2016, 05:05:39 pm »
That sawmill weighs close to 4,000 pounds, so do not expect to get a significant increase in fuel mileage.

With a diesel vs a gasser?  My neighbor towed my tractor on a 30 foot trailer with his F250 7.3 and got about 12mpg towing that (about 8000lbs)....I was thinking the sawmill would be light enough the big diesels would pull it at 12+ mpg.  Am I wrong?

Of course, with a camper and the mill I wouldn't expect much but at least I'd be able to pull the mill and haul the camper ;) 

My F150 with big Toyo's gets about 15.5-16.5mpg depending on how I drive and where but not towing.  It's 10 then no matter what.

On a side note, I was getting 17.5-19mpg with the F150 on stock tires....was surprised by the loss of 2mpg just due to tires but don't expect much anyway,.
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Re: F350 Dually or single?
« Reply #26 on: August 04, 2016, 05:10:27 pm »
For towing a 4klbs sawmill and a camper I'm not really seeing where there is a need for a dually truck. I routinely tow (over 1k miles in the last 8 days) 16-18k lbs on a gooseneck trailer with a SRW truck and have had no issues. I don't have any trouble with sway or braking (trailer has good brakes on all axles), heck even got the wife hauling 16k lbs loads of hay this past week. Over these last 1k miles of towing I've averaged 11.5mpg.   

My experience with DRW's is they are worse than a SRW in mud and snow because the rear tires are always trying to make new tracks as they don't fit and follow in the tracks from the front tires.

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Re: F350 Dually or single?
« Reply #27 on: August 04, 2016, 08:17:38 pm »
If you are considering a hard sided slide in truck camper of any real size you will want the DRW as they are hefty when set up with water and gear.  Some of the pop up types and lite models would be fine with SRW.   

I have a 1 ton 3500 GMC SRW regular cab long bed and still is not enough to haul a decent sized slide in truck camper loaded without extra help.   

Those DRW are the way to go if the truck camper is your objective simply from a carrying the weight perspective.   It's not about the power and handling so much as the safety of the capacity.


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Re: F350 Dually or single?
« Reply #28 on: August 04, 2016, 08:41:36 pm »
Ive got one of each. The single rear is nice because it handles drive thru's with ease (bank especially) it rides nicer than the dually because of the lessened unsprung weight. 4 tires are way cheaper to replace than 6.

HOWEVER, I never think twice about ANY load going on the dually. Even with a trailer in tow it hauls whatever I need it to! Fuel mileage sucks, it rides like poo but thats not why I bought it.

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Re: F350 Dually or single?
« Reply #29 on: August 04, 2016, 08:49:22 pm »
Either will likely do what you want depending on the weight of the camper.

The dually will feel more stable loaded  / The single is nicer to drive in town. 
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Re: F350 Dually or single?
« Reply #30 on: August 04, 2016, 09:02:57 pm »
I am not doing the buying,BUT,hard to see what 2-3 years down the road what you will be using it for. Buy the dully and maybe in 2 years you will say,man,I'm glad I did that. Never know what you will be hauling 2 years from now.
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Re: F350 Dually or single?
« Reply #31 on: August 04, 2016, 09:12:08 pm »
Yes, the main dually drawbacks, how they get around is a non-issue to me. I honestly don't see any difference, and my truck is in the woods in mud and snow every day. The real drawbacks- 1.Just wait until it is time to buy 6 E load range tires $$ 2. The previously mentioned drive thru tellers, as well as the Golden Arches etc. 3. Add to that drive thru car washes 4. Parking ramps. Myself I like the challenge of putting the big truck in the places where people don't think it will fit. Except for the car wash, don't try that one ;D
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Re: F350 Dually or single?
« Reply #32 on: August 04, 2016, 09:17:00 pm »
Hmmm....guess the question is "what is the weight of the truck camper you are thinking of buying" or something like that.

After all, something in the 2000lbs range ought to be fine on a SRW right?  vs a 4000lbs camper
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Re: F350 Dually or single?
« Reply #33 on: August 04, 2016, 09:29:42 pm »

After all, something in the 2000lbs range ought to be fine on a SRW right?  vs a 4000lbs camper
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Yes.  The SRW will have no problems with the lighter slide in type.  But you know how you decided to UPGRADE your mill........   sometimes it seems to happen with our other gear too.  🚍

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Re: F350 Dually or single?
« Reply #34 on: August 04, 2016, 10:21:43 pm »
BTW, I had a 3/4 I was happy with, but I was at an auction where no one was bidding on this Dodge dually. I didn't even want a dually but it was too cheap too pass up. Now I've got the old girl about wore out, and I'm looking for another dually  ;)
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Re: F350 Dually or single?
« Reply #35 on: August 04, 2016, 11:02:01 pm »
2,000 lbs. just levels off my f350 srw.  Rides good that way too.   ;D

Do check the door sticker for weight ratings.  My truck is rated to weigh 9,900lbs.  Empty with part of a tank of fuel it's about 6,400.  Reg cab 4x2 so mine's light as far as F350s go.   Many (all I have ever seen) F250s have the "9900 payload package"   which is just the f350 spring packs and sway bars etc. 
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Re: F350 Dually or single?
« Reply #36 on: August 04, 2016, 11:58:54 pm »
my two cents......
slide in camper - keep it small and light, all it is going to be used for is sleeping and cooking, bathroom is a bonus

Truck - Dually = wide back end, better stability, harder to find parking spaces.
Single = two less tires to buy

gas vs diesel. is your mill gas?
Diesel, stick with the non-DEF engines = older trucks
the 5.9 and the 7.3 are both good engines.

I would recommend a Dodge 3500, with flatbed.
a Dually could handle a 8x8 flatbed

I have a 2007 dodge Dually crewcab with a standard 8 foot box. been thinking of changing the box to a flatbed with hydraulic lift to make the flatbed into a dump bed.
I had a 2001 F250 ex cab that had the dump flatbed, man i miss it.
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Re: F350 Dually or single?
« Reply #37 on: August 05, 2016, 12:10:50 am »
I have a 2500HD 4WD Diesel single. Great mileage even when pulling a loaded 18' trailer of logs/lumber. I've never owned a dually so I can't comment on any difference in that respect but I can say I'd never own a gasser again and I'd never be without 4WD.
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Re: F350 Dually or single?
« Reply #38 on: August 05, 2016, 02:26:47 am »
I put many many miles pulling this trailer of 8500lbs load of antique pumps
to engine shows with a slide in camper on 1500 Chevy trucks with no problems.

 

 

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Re: F350 Dually or single?
« Reply #39 on: August 05, 2016, 03:56:51 am »
I put many many miles pulling this trailer of 8500lbs load of antique pumps
to engine shows with a slide in camper on 1500 Chevy trucks with no problems.


I would not be comfortable doing that.

I also would be comfortable paying the DOT after being stopped with that combo here in WA.


I vote dually.   Slide in campers HATE pickup trucks.  Ever swerve a single wheel with a camper on back?  SRW trucks with campers scare me.   I avoid them on the highway. 

Put a bigger diff cover on and fill it with royal purple too.  Tow that camper a hundred miles and roll under there and feel the pinion snout and it will scare you.

Im a 12V cummins guy.   And I love my flatbed.   Todays tires suck.  6 of them is better odds than 4.