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plowboyswr

As I have read on here numerous times, the word has gotten out that I have a mill. Now it seems the offers are coming in. The BIL sends me a text the other day "what kind of wood are you hunting for?" Having just woke up form my Sunday afternoon nap still groggy replied back "for what?" "lumber" is the answer I get, which perks my interest so the questions flow "what kind, how big, where at, and how much". Pecan, I don't know I will get a picture, my sister's place, and free."  I know from my read here how pecan can act but a free log I'd gamble, probably a yard tree, still not a deal breaker. then I get the picture...


    

Where's the log? :o OH my, it's still standing! Wait a minute it's not just one tree it's 5 trees and they want me to cut them.  :D :D :D Sorry bub but I'm not an arborist nor do I have insurance for that. Call me when it's down I'll help with the clean-up. ;D
Just an ole farm boy takin one day at a time.
Steve

barbender

     I've already exceedex my lifetime quota of "free" trees like that. You were wise to let them go ;)
Too many irons in the fire

redprospector

I've learned that there is no such thing as "free" logs.
I bid on a thinning project the other day, and the owner said "I want to keep the first log out of each of those pines in the front. I'm going to see what the guy up the road with a mill will give me for them". I just laughed and said "that'll cost ya extra".  :D
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Hiway40frank

I would take that job anyday if they signed a contract, assumed all liability and payed me 250/hr. Besides that someone trying to get a 1000+$ job done for free is the same person who would bring you to small claims court over a 200$ bill to re-seed the lawn...

DDW_OR

I wish i had Pecan trees that big on my property here in Oregon.
I LOVE pecan nuts.

I agree with the others, NO job is Free.
"let the machines do the work"

sandsawmill14

i get calls like that from time to time usually 48" plus oaks with a real nice 6' butt log and a 100' long 2nd cut with 24" limbs on it some even want to sell it but most it s free for the taking as long as you clean up the brush :-\ :D :D  so far i have been able to resist the temtation ;D :D :D :D
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woodman58

I had a neighbor call the other day. He heard I was looking for pine. He has about 150 trees on 3 acres he wanted to give me if I cut them down. I had a slight interest so, I went to take a look. They were 12 to 18 inches at my chest. (just what I wanted) Then he told me he wanted me to clean up the branches and grind the stumps. I figured that with my time and the rental of a stump grinder it was going to cost me about 2 times what it would cost me to buy them from a logger. No thanks
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YellowHammer

Just get used to that, you'll get jobs offers like that all the time.  I had one this week where a lady said if I cut a big red oak down, I could have it, only that it was so close to the back door of her house that she didn't trust her husband to do it....
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Chuck White

I've gotten a few requests from people wanting me to cut their tree down, I just say "I don't want anything to do with a tree until it is cut into logs and stacked"!

End of discussion!   ;)  :)
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Skip

Tell to call you when its down. ;D

Magicman

I just saws um and leaves um.   ;D
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Ox

Magicman, every time I read that I get a chuckle.  It's hilarious!  That should be your motto and advertise it somehow without "offending" anyone out in public.
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Jim_Rogers

I tell people "I don't cut trees down, I cut them up^"   8) :o :D ;D

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paul case

Please do not share my contact info with them. ???
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Percy

Quote from: Jim_Rogers on May 27, 2016, 09:20:29 AM
I tell people "I don't cut trees down, I cut them up^"   8) :o :D ;D

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plowboyswr

Quote from: paul case on May 27, 2016, 09:25:48 AM
Please do not share my contact info with them. ???
PC
You sure Paul?  ;) :D
Just an ole farm boy takin one day at a time.
Steve

WDH

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plowboyswr

Quote from: WDH on May 27, 2016, 01:19:48 PM
The answer is NO!
:D :D :D :D When the B.I.L. said pecan the first thing that came to mind was you saying that it's the  smiley_devil
Just an ole farm boy takin one day at a time.
Steve

lewis

I will occasionally cut a tree or trees,but they need to be clean and strait because if it is around a house, I will leave the butt cut as chances are they have metal in them 

dgdrls

Local trade papers, posting boards and well,....  we all know where else
have lots of these Jewels

No thank you,
being a little older and wiser has its benefits ;)

Dan


Ox

I had a guy last year TELL me what he's going to pay me to saw up some red oak for him.  I declined, just out of principle.  It was actually close to the going rate for around here (.40/bf), but I was quite busy at the time with other important things and I didn't appreciate that he thought he could dictate pricing to me.  Plus, my mill being all manual I would have lost on that one anyway.
K.I.S.S. - Keep It Simple Stupid
Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without
1989 GMC 3500 4x4 diesel dump and plow truck, 1964 Oliver 1600 Industrial with Parsons loader and backhoe, 1986 Zetor 5211, Cat's Claw sharpener, single tooth setter, homemade Linn Lumber 1900 style mill, old tools

fishfighter

Yep, had a few people wanting me to fell trees for the logs. Not going to happen. :D

Peter Drouin

Ox, I get that from time to time. OR, [You only have to make 4 cuts]  :D
A&P saw Mill LLC.
45' of Wood Mizer, cutting since 1987.
License NH softwood grader.

sealark37

The last tree i was "given" was a beautiful longleaf pine, knocked over in a storm.  Level ground, no obstructions, right at 36 inches at the butt.  Three 16' logs with no limbs.  Buck it and stack the limbs and tops.  The root plate was over 10' tall, with a 3' hole under it.  I was a bit leery, so I put six cedar posts against it to keep it from falling.  After limbing and stacking, I bucked the trunk into 16 footers.  When I made the butt cut, the root ball spit out three of the cedar posts, and crushed the other three into the hole.  All I saw was the stump disappearing from my vision.  Two of the loose posts fell harmlessly, while the other one went through the side of the barn and almost started a stampede.  The "thump" brought out all the neighbors  for a quarter mile, and taught me that I enjoyed playing with a sawmill a lot more than cutting timber.  As an aside, when the word got out, the lumber and slabs went like hotcakes.     Regards, Clark

Ox

sealark - great story!  I had the butt log of a big old sugar maple stand up like that once but in slower motion.  I left it like that for a few years to season, which worked out well.  I had a few people ask how I got up there to make such a nice square cut at 16' in the air.  :D

Peter - only 4 cuts?  Heh.  That 4 turns into multiple after they see the thicker flitches and start getting greedy for every single board that might be salvaged and they want you to repeatedly shave them to try to get the "best" board.  But at the first agreed upon price of course!  People never cease to amaze me.  It's as if they never try to put themselves in the other person's boots and see what they're doing.  ::)
K.I.S.S. - Keep It Simple Stupid
Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without
1989 GMC 3500 4x4 diesel dump and plow truck, 1964 Oliver 1600 Industrial with Parsons loader and backhoe, 1986 Zetor 5211, Cat's Claw sharpener, single tooth setter, homemade Linn Lumber 1900 style mill, old tools

shortlogger

Most of the logs I saw are gimme trees because of the lack of local markets in my area if you have less than 8 or 10 loads of tree length you can't get a logger to move his equipment to your place . We had a tornado in March and I'm covered up in logs now . My neighbor had about 5 loads of logs and 2 loads of pulpwood down and couldn't get anyone to cut it so he decked it all and gave away to anyone that would get it and he still had a couple loads piled up .
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WV Sawmiller

Sealark,

   I had a similar incident 4 years ago the summer when we had freak storms come through the area with tornado force winds. Power was out here at our house for 11 days.

   That was before I had my mill but I had friends called and asked for help so I took my chainsaw to their house and cut a couple of big pines that had fallen across their drive blocking their access. We'd cut the logs and pull them parallel to the drive with my P/U. One tree likely had a 10-12 ft root ball. I never even thought about it till I cut the tree about 6' above the base and it stood right back up as pretty as you please. Fortunately nobody was hurt. I wish we'd had a video of it. It was quite spectacular.
Howard Green
WM LT35HDG25(2015) , 2011 4WD F150 Ford Lariat PU, Kawasaki 650 ATV, Stihl 440 Chainsaw, homemade logging arch (w/custom built rear log dolly), JD 750 w/4' wide Bushhog brand FEL

Dad always said "You can shear a sheep a bunch of times but you can only skin him once

Peter Drouin

Most times storm down trees are junk. They look good on the outside, but, the thing is all crack on the inside.
There was a man I knew bought storm down W Pine for .10 a BF and that was a deal if the logs were good . But 90+% where junk. He went out of business a year later.

I won't take them for free delivered :D :D
A&P saw Mill LLC.
45' of Wood Mizer, cutting since 1987.
License NH softwood grader.

WV Sawmiller

Quote from: Peter Drouin on May 29, 2016, 08:06:56 PM
Most times storm down trees are junk. They look good on the outside, but, the thing is all crack on the inside.
D :D

Peter,

   I can vouch for that. Same storm I mentioned before broke one fork of a huge white oak here at my place. When I got my mill and a bigger chainsaw I cut the last log up for lumber. Started with an 8' log over 42" diameter small end. Had to split it with my chainsaw to fit on the mill. A lot of effort to drag it to the mill site. When done sawing yield was about 100 bf because of all the cracks and shake involved. Was not worth the effort at all.
Howard Green
WM LT35HDG25(2015) , 2011 4WD F150 Ford Lariat PU, Kawasaki 650 ATV, Stihl 440 Chainsaw, homemade logging arch (w/custom built rear log dolly), JD 750 w/4' wide Bushhog brand FEL

Dad always said "You can shear a sheep a bunch of times but you can only skin him once

plowboyswr

Had a neighbor stop by and looked at my pile of walnut lumber and made what he thought was an offer I couldn't refuse. He goes hey how bout a trade,  I smiled, sure what ya got?  How bout all the lumber you have cut for my log.  Okay what's so special bout your log?  Well, it's a black walnut 45'long and 30" on the small end. Oh really, how big on the butt? Gotta be 48" or better.  :D :D :D tell ya what why don't you just sell it and buy my lumber that's way too big for my little mill. Or tell ya what find some smaller stock and I will come mill them for ya. ;D
Just an ole farm boy takin one day at a time.
Steve

shortlogger

All this timber is fine it's just blew over I've sawed a bunch of it already . The only reason nobody will cut it is cause all the crews in my area are high volume and need enough wood to justify the cost of moving equipment .
1 Corinthians 3:7 So then neither he who plants is anything, nor he who waters, but God who gives the increase . "NKJV"

sandsawmill14

sealark you gotta watch those root balls worst i ever got into was 12 red oaks that a track hoe dug out he knew they were for lumber so he barely even scratched the bark no split or crack anywhere BUT he stacked the dang things like logs on a landing full tops on 1 end and root ball on the other :o :o took me most of a day to get that mess straightened out  >:( but i got about 5500 ft of logs and all the butt logs were perfectly clear and sound so it was still a good day being as i managed not to get a leg broke or something ;D i could not have got that many out in a day from the woods by myself :) but cutting those root balls off and the top ones 10 feet off the ground was scary for me :o all were in the 24-36" range :)  i went and looked at the logs before the were taken down and they were between the house ,shop,and barn so only one way they could fall and since he was going to have track hoe dig the stumps out anyway we just had him take them down is why the were dug up instead of cut with a saw :)

Quote from: shortlogger on May 29, 2016, 10:40:19 PM
All this timber is fine it's just blew over I've sawed a bunch of it already . The only reason nobody will cut it is cause all the crews in my area are high volume and need enough wood to justify the cost of moving equipment .
i have sawn alot of blow down timber to and it was all good lumber too but it also was all hardwood and i bet the softwoods might be different :)
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