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Kbeitz

Someone was watching out for me...

I bought this green trailer in the first picture.



 

I'm going to use it to load my lumber on right off the mill so I have a way to move it to my storage spot.
The guy I bought it from called to ask me if i wanted to buy another one. I said sure.
I have a very steep road going into my mill and a good road on the way out.
Not much room to turn things around. So the first time going in I really went slow and even stopped
and backed up to be sure my tractor would handle the load. Going in I was always empty.
Going out the better road I would be loaded. This was done with the first green trailer.



 

So I got the new yellow trailer home and thought I would take it down to the mill.
I wasn't worried about the hill because the trailer was the same size and shape as the green one.
I was going down the hill and I heard a BANG. The back of the tractor went up in the air and
started going sideways. I dint even have time to look to see what happened. I turned my steering wheel
to straiten the tractor out and it slid the other way... I was all but ready to jump. I dropped the bucket
to help stop the tractor from tipping. I was sliding down the hill sliding one way then the other.
I dint have a whole lot of room to get stopped before I would have went over the bank.
But I got it stopped.



 

As you can see my back wheels are not on the ground...



 

What happened was the tongue of this trailer was made different than the green one.
It had a neat option of being able to fold it up when you park it so your not tripping over
it when it's not hooked to the tractor. The green trailer does not do this.
So when the trailer started pushing to the tractor it folded up. That lifted the back of the tractor right
up off the ground. Also the back of the trailer lifted up because of all the weight on the tongue of
the tractor.



 



 

I had one heck of a time getting out of this fix.  But Back to the weld shop I went. Going up hill was no problem.



 

I made some mods to the hitch...



 

And back to the hill I went...



 

No problem this time. The tongue cant raise up...



 

Bet I'll dream about this tonight. This is what was waiting for me if I dint get stopped.



 

Skid marks where my front wheels was sliding.



 
Collector and builder of many things.
Love machine shop work
and Wood work shop work
And now a saw mill work

squidboy51

Wow .... I never liked yellow trailers, can't trust those suckers for a minute!

Glad you got the situation under control quick, as I really enjoy reading your posts.

Take care and safe milling.

squid
Woodland Mills HM 126, Dresser 125G with 4 way bucket, 1950 Ford 8N, Stihl 048 and MS170, antique Clyde Iron Works (1889-1947) cant hook.

Seavee

You sure are lucky.  That would have ended up badly.
Wood mizer lt50 47hp yanmar Diesel  Sthil MS311, Ms661 MS200T, 029 farm boss  and a New Holland T4  75hp.

peterpaul

Wow, glad your OK, kinda like an earthquake, the aftershocks are nearly as bad as the real deal.  I too have really enjoyed your posts and knowledge.  Like the bumper sticker says, "It Happens".  Please stay safe.  Those trailers sure look nice and should serve you well for your lumber transport.

 
Woodmizer LT15, Kubota 4330 GST, Wallenstein FX 85, Timberwolf TW6, homemade firewood conveyor

cutterboy

You just never know what surprises await you before the end of the day. That was quick thinking to drop the bucket. Glad you're OK.
To underestimate old men and old machines is the folly of youth. Frank C.

Dave Shepard

When using a 3 ph like that for trailers, I like to run a chain from the top link down to the drawbar so it can't do that. My tractor is heavy enough that it doesn't get pushed around too easily, but it's still possible. Glad you didn't go over the edge!
Wood-Mizer LT40HDD51-WR Wireless, Kubota L48, Honda Rincon 650, TJ208 G-S, and a 60"LogRite!

Gearbox

Nice trailers glad you are ok . That is some hill by your barn
A bunch of chainsaws a BT6870 processer , TC 5 International track skidder and not near enough time

Bruno of NH

I like the trailers and what you use them for .
Glad you didn't go over the bank .
Lt 40 wide with 38hp gas and command controls , F350 4x4 dump and lot of contracting tools

Ox

Luckily you have the reflexes of a cat and the speed of a mongoose.  Glad to hear you're okay.  That darn tongue is something I wouldn't have thought of either and it's a good thing nothing bad happened before you fixed it good.
K.I.S.S. - Keep It Simple Stupid
Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without
1989 GMC 3500 4x4 diesel dump and plow truck, 1964 Oliver 1600 Industrial with Parsons loader and backhoe, 1986 Zetor 5211, Cat's Claw sharpener, single tooth setter, homemade Linn Lumber 1900 style mill, old tools

Kbeitz

I like the way I fixed the trailer hitch so it cant go up. Now when i back up an
empty trailer I can lift the 3 point and it lifts the front of the trailer all the way
off the ground. It's so much easier to back up a two wheel trailer than one with
four. I would not try it when it's full. I have a much larger tractor to move things
around with but I hate taking the backhoe off to use the 3 point.
I made a mod the the back of the tractor for a class 3 hitch but it wont
work with this type of trailer unless I let the trailer hitch float. Maybe I can
redesign the tractor hitch to work with my new trailers. This is a picture
of the hitch I made that hooks to the bigger tractor with the backhoe so i
dont have to take it off.



 

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Love machine shop work
and Wood work shop work
And now a saw mill work

thecfarm

Not good. Who would of thought of that.
We use to have have supports that went to end of the hyd arms to the top link. That kept the 3 point hitch down low. We use to come down a steep hill with about a cord of wood on a trailer. The supports arms worked.
Model 6020-20hp Manual Thomas bandsaw,TC40A 4wd 40 hp New Holland tractor, 450 Norse Winch, Heatmor 400 OWB,YCC 1978-79

WDH

You were almost up that creek without a paddle.
Woodmizer LT40HDD35, John Deere 2155, Kubota M5-111, Kubota L2501, Nyle L53 Dehumidification Kiln, and a passion for all things with leafs, twigs, and bark.  hamsleyhardwood.com

4x4American

Wow..that was a close call...Believe I'd put a heavy duty stop barrier at the bottom of that hill.  Maybe jam a few locust timbers into the ground or something.  Good job on putting the bucket down.
Boy, back in my day..

Peter Drouin

Good your ok. Now sell the riding lawn-mower and get a tractor. 80 or 100 horse, 4x4 would be good.
A&P saw Mill LLC.
45' of Wood Mizer, cutting since 1987.
License NH softwood grader.

47sawdust

As steep as your place is I wouldn't be hitching a load to the 3pt lift.I'd be using a frame mounted tow bar,might not be as convenient but would save the skid marks on the ground and perhaps other places.
Mick
1997 WM Lt30 1999 WM twin blade edger Kubota L3750 Tajfun winchGood Health Work is my hobby.

WV Sawmiller

Kbeitz,

   Glad you are okay. I guess we need something to push all those potential clogs through our plumbing and I bet an adrenaline rush like that has your clean as a whistle (even if some articles of clothing may need early laundering). Good looking trailers and mods. Stay safe and thanks for sharing so the rest of us remember to look for such in the future.
Howard Green
WM LT35HDG25(2015) , 2011 4WD F150 Ford Lariat PU, Kawasaki 650 ATV, Stihl 440 Chainsaw, homemade logging arch (w/custom built rear log dolly), JD 750 w/4' wide Bushhog brand FEL

Dad always said "You can shear a sheep a bunch of times but you can only skin him once

scully

Tractors and hills are bad enough ! Thank the dear Lord you were not loaded !
I bleed orange  .

Kbeitz

Soon I'll have this up and running... Then I wont be pushed around...



 
Collector and builder of many things.
Love machine shop work
and Wood work shop work
And now a saw mill work

squidboy51

Kbeitz

I use a crawler on my sloped work area and would like to warn you about reverse steering with the track layer. You may be a cat skinner from way back and already know about the ways a crawler behaves going down slope. If you are not familiar with I am talking about, please talk to a local experienced operator to keep you and your equipment out of the creek.

Looks like another thread I will enjoy reading, saving the old iron from the scrap pile.

Keep up the good work and stay safe.

squid

Woodland Mills HM 126, Dresser 125G with 4 way bucket, 1950 Ford 8N, Stihl 048 and MS170, antique Clyde Iron Works (1889-1947) cant hook.

Kbeitz

Quote from: squidboy51 on March 22, 2016, 11:16:12 PM
Kbeitz

I use a crawler on my sloped work area and would like to warn you about reverse steering with the track layer. You may be a cat skinner from way back and already know about the ways a crawler behaves going down slope. If you are not familiar with I am talking about, please talk to a local experienced operator to keep you and your equipment out of the creek.

Looks like another thread I will enjoy reading, saving the old iron from the scrap pile.

Keep up the good work and stay safe.

squid

Hey thanks.
I got lots of time on dozers and the HG's are small but they do a big tractors work.
This is the kind of load we worked with here on the tree farm. Looks way to big for the tractor
but it handled it... We had to work on the hill in snow and ice these little tractors.



 

Collector and builder of many things.
Love machine shop work
and Wood work shop work
And now a saw mill work

Ox

Is that a Cletrac?  Oliver?  What's the difference between the two, or are they the same?  I'd love to have one of these some day.  I've got a huge soft spot in my little old heart for old iron.
K.I.S.S. - Keep It Simple Stupid
Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without
1989 GMC 3500 4x4 diesel dump and plow truck, 1964 Oliver 1600 Industrial with Parsons loader and backhoe, 1986 Zetor 5211, Cat's Claw sharpener, single tooth setter, homemade Linn Lumber 1900 style mill, old tools

outpost22

Whew! Lots of pucker factor there.  Thanks for the education without the hard earned lesson.  I don't own any "wagon" trailers. Mine all have fixed tongues with one or two rear axle sets.  I use the 3 point attachment for moving all of them around.  Never even thought of the flexible tongue issue before you showed the pictures.
My 16' flat bed has electric brakes, but I was thinking about either mounting a brake controller on the tractor or changing them to surge brakes for hauling logs down our mountains. 
I have used the bucket many times as an extra brake like you did.  The new grapple bucket has steel tines that are under it and make a really good brake, maybe too good.

Glad it all worked out for you.
Creating one more project one at a time.
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Stihl 210
Stihl 251
Stihl 461
Husky 350
Kubota L3800

petefrom bearswamp

Glad you are OK.
I agree with Peter Drouin, get a bigger tractor, or flatter ground..
Kubota 8540 tractor, FEL bucket and forks, Farmi winch
Kubota 900 RTV
Polaris 570 Sportsman ATV
3 Huskies 1 gas Echo 1 cordless Echo vintage Homelite super xl12
57 acres of woodland

Cazzhrdwd

Glad you're okay but I want to warn you, steep hills are no place for dealing with heavy loads of lumber. I'm not sure how you'll do it but I'm telling you its only a matter of time before you get into something terrible. Through the change of seasons the ground can change greatly, doing this kind of work on slopes is incredibly dangerous.

The crawler will be the worst thing you can be on with frozen ground and hills.
96 Woodmizer LT40Super  Woodmizer 5 head moulder

1-2 Tree

Man glad your OK bet that tractor did not leave the only skid marks !!
I like the smell of saw dust in the mornings !I have a crescent wrench and I know how to use it ! The best hammer I have ever owned !

21incher

Glad to see you survived. I bet that is not the first of your 900 lives used in your lifetime.  You better get making more sawdust to fill up the ditch for a soft landing should it happen again. :)
Hudson HFE-21 on a custom trailer, Deere 4100, Kubota BX 2360, Echo CS590 & CS310, home built wood splitter, home built log arch, a logrite cant hook and a bread machine. And a Kubota Sidekick with a Defective Subaru motor.

Kbeitz

Quote from: Cazzhrdwd on March 23, 2016, 10:03:22 PM
Glad you're okay but I want to warn you, steep hills are no place for dealing with heavy loads of lumber. I'm not sure how you'll do it but I'm telling you its only a matter of time before you get into something terrible. Through the change of seasons the ground can change greatly, doing this kind of work on slopes is incredibly dangerous.

The crawler will be the worst thing you can be on with frozen ground and hills.

My road in is steep. When loaded I have a much better road going out.
You can see the road out in this picture. It's like a one way road because
I just dont have room to easy turn around. So I come in the steep road
empty and out the flat road loaded.



 
Collector and builder of many things.
Love machine shop work
and Wood work shop work
And now a saw mill work

Kbeitz

Quote from: Ox on March 23, 2016, 09:32:08 AM
Is that a Cletrac?  Oliver?  What's the difference between the two, or are they the same?  I'd love to have one of these some day.  I've got a huge soft spot in my little old heart for old iron.

The OC-3 is one step up in the modef numbers form a Cletrac. Just a little heaver duty.
Same engine. Most OC-3's xame with loaders. The frame suports are much heavyer.
The 5 we had on our tree farm was all HG-Olivers. This is my first OC-3
Collector and builder of many things.
Love machine shop work
and Wood work shop work
And now a saw mill work

never finished

 Kbeitz many a man have tried to jump off a tractor and hope they clear the load behind them. But very few were able to tell about the end results. Pull that seat belt down tight and hope that ROPS does its job. Or better yet, on that hill you've got, pray it does it's job.

Kbeitz

I have many times thought about that. I would agree with that in a car or truck.
But in a tractor no way. If it's going over I'm leaving. I'm sure i would be dead
today If I stayed with this one. The biggest thing is to get clear and not trapped.
Lived on a farm all my life and had many close calls with tractors.
Three times I've balled out. The picture is the same tractor as in this post.



 

Collector and builder of many things.
Love machine shop work
and Wood work shop work
And now a saw mill work

red

Tracks on a hill with any kind of Ice ?  Guess it is a fair weather plan
Honor the Fallen Thank the Living

YellowHammer

I have been watching this thread for awhile, but have not commented because these types of things hit close to home for me, and maybe for everybody who works in an environment where things can go bad real fast, which includes sawmilling and logging.
So this is just my opinion, so take it for what it's worth, it's not criticism, but just my way of looking at things dealing with and handling dangerous, lethal items at my day job on a routine basis.  When major failures occur, or people get almost severely injured or worse, it's almost always a combination of several factors, not just one, although it generally only takes the last "tumbler in the lock" or the small unanticipated issue to make things go wrong.  So fixing the trailer is one factor removed, but I have a personal rule that anything that tries to kill me or my people gets pulled from service immediately, removed or destroyed and I never use it agin. Never. I would be selling the trailer for scrap.

Also, I would switch from pulling loads from the three point hitch, many, many people have been killed doing that.  Tractor draw bars are designed for pulling as they are lower than the center of pressure on a tractor, so when pulling a heavy load, the front end is forced down instead of up.  So the tractor gains control authority instead of losing it.  If for some reason the drawbar isn't an option with this configuration, then I'd make it one.

I would also put a barrier down, or even redo the road in such as way to have a safety berm or wider path, or something. 

I would also get a heavier, more stable piece of hauling equipment, whatever it may be, bigger tractor, crawler, or even a dump truck, something designed to haul logs and the loads you are hauling.   

The last picture of the rolled tractor would be the icing on the cake for me.  Remember earlier in the post how I said anything that tries to kill me never gets used again? This is why.  And also how just changing one factor generally doesn't solve the problem for long?  Apparently this tractor has tried to kill you twice. That's my point. This tractor would be history, and I would get one that is better configured for what you are trying to do. 
Just trying to give a different point of view.  Stay safe. Happy Easter.  It could have been a much different one. 
YellowHammerisms:

Take steps to save steps.

If it won't roll, its not a log; it's still a tree.  Sawmills cut logs, not trees.

Kiln drying wood: When the cookies are burned, they're burned, and you can't fix them.

Sawing is fun for the first couple million boards.

Be smarter than the sawdust

Kbeitz

Thanks... I do appreciate your input. But I'm keeping my tractor.
I take this all as a learning curve. The more mishaps I have the more I know what my tractor can and cant do.
With the green trailer I have I have to use the 3 point. The tongue does not move up and down.
So something on the tractor needs to float. I do plane on building a barrier at the end of that road.
I never take a loaded trailer down that road. Its what I have to work with so I'll make do.
By locking the tongue like I did I can now lift the 3 point and the trailer so I'm pulling it like
a two wheeled trailer. Sure makes it easy to back up.

Thanks again for your input.

Collector and builder of many things.
Love machine shop work
and Wood work shop work
And now a saw mill work

WV Sawmiller

   Yellowhammer makes a lot of good points. Some options are probably never going to happen due to physical and cost constraints but they need to be considered and please make every effort to eliminate or mitigate them.

   When I was working and in charge of others if we had an injury or near miss (as this was) I always had the individual involved present a formal safety class at the site of the incident/accident to the whole team explaining what happened, what caused it, what made it worse, what kept it from being worse (PPE, etc), what could have prevented it and lessons learned. The rest of the team got to ask questions and see exactly what happened and what could have happened. I tried to make sure we had this "class" as soon as possible - within 24 hours where possible.

   We treated every near miss exactly as an actual accident or incident because except for dumb luck they were the same. I found I could preach occupational safety all day long and folks would take it with a grain of salt but when one of their co-workers told them in their terminology the same thing while standing there with stitches in his head or a cast on his arm, they paid more attention.
Howard Green
WM LT35HDG25(2015) , 2011 4WD F150 Ford Lariat PU, Kawasaki 650 ATV, Stihl 440 Chainsaw, homemade logging arch (w/custom built rear log dolly), JD 750 w/4' wide Bushhog brand FEL

Dad always said "You can shear a sheep a bunch of times but you can only skin him once

red

Thats an Excellent Plan when you have 900 lives . I only have ONE and I am thankfull when I come home with 10 fingers and 10 toes . As the Rednecks last words were  " Hey guys watch this ."
Honor the Fallen Thank the Living

Kbeitz

I dint want to post this because 90% of you wont beleve this...
But this is my life for real... Hand on the Bible it's the truth...

My life of 900 lives.


Fell off a high ladder in a tree

Battery blew up in my face.

Pop off valve blew up in my face.

Wax bullet blew up in my face.

# 40 roller chain broke and hit me in my right eye hard enough to take me of my feet.

Had a cement column fall behind my back. It landed two feet from me.

Rolled a tractor. Rolled a garden tractor.

Had a boat and trailer come off the hitch and run over me.

Lost control of a motorcycle and went through the wood with trees narrow than the handlebars.

Hit a Cliff with a motorcycle.

Almost broadsided a car with a motorcycle.

Came very close to hitting a deer and a raccoon with a motorcycle.

Had a very large tree crash down on a D9 dozer I was driving.

Had a spring loaded log spring up and bend the roll bar of the same D9 dozer right next to my head.

Had a welder blow up on me..

Had a burn barrow blow up on me. Had no idea what was in it.

All most stepped on a gator.

All most stepped on a cotton mouth.

Almost fell off a high rafter in a barn.

Accidentally made two sparks in a grain silo.

Had a trailer come off a road bank and the tongue landed on my shoe pushing my foot off to one side.

I needed a jack to get my shoe back. No mark on my foot.

When chainsawing I had a spring loaded tree come back and land on my foot. Saw was stuck in the tree.

I had to use another log tree to pry the tree off my foot... Lots of pain.

Walked away from a head on collision with my Jeep Wrangler. Both vehicles totaled.

Rolled a VW Dune buggy all the way over. I was thrown clear.

Drill a hole from out side a house into a 220V live range recital.

Drilled a hold through a live 220v circuit box and a place that built homes.

Had a large tractor tire blow up with my head between the fender and the tire..

Had a tractor start in the barn with me between the tire and the wall. No safety switch.

Had a large grind stone blow up into 3 chunks. One went through my home.

Had a 8" 4 jaw chuck come loose and off a metal lathe.

Had a drill press through a vise across the room.

Had an electric motor catch my shirt sleeve and the shaft went into my arm.

Had a 1" hand drill get away from me... Old one that was made that the switch stayed on.

Had metal stick in my eye.

Had metal in deep in my hand.

Cut a live 220v air conditioner wire off with a saws all.

I was in a boat that got out of control and dumped everyone out but me.

Almost put a dozer over a clift... Did put on on it's side.

Also has a large tree up end and the stump picked up the dozer and took me over a bank.

I was the last person to drive over the Milton bridge seconds before it fell in 1987.

I had a Briggs gas engine flywheel come apart while I was working on it on my work bench.

When I was a kid I climbed way up in a tree and the limb I was standing on broke. The one I was holding was smaller but helled me.

When in the Army we blew up a bridge and the beams cam crashing down on the APC I was in.

I was standing next to a jeep that ran over C3 and blew the front tire off.

I had a blasting cap blew up in my hand that was in a spring trap for a land mine, No injury.

Almost fell off a roof twice. One with snow and once the roof was just wet.

Had a girl hunter discharge her rifle when it was pointed at me. I have no idea how close the bullet was.

I got trapped in the center of a gas fire. I held my breath and closed my eyes and ran... No injury's.

Lost control of a 90hp farm tractor pulling a tantrum axle sprayer.

allmost lost my face trying to stop a runaway farm trailer when the back of the trailer dug into the dirt and the tongue flew up past my face.

Almost upset a highlift..

I got a forklift stuck between a moving train and a roof column.

Almost got blown off a 6 story roof when the wind wrapped a tarp around me. I was trying to take it down.

Almost got chopped in two when I stepped off an elevator that was loaded with a forklift that was to heavy for it.

Collector and builder of many things.
Love machine shop work
and Wood work shop work
And now a saw mill work

Ox

I only have two words.  Holy crap.  I thought I had a long and interesting history of close calls and narrow misses and injuries.  Compared to you I must have around 450 lives or so...  Thanks for sharing all of that - it was interesting for me to put myself in your place and imagine how it was.  Reading your post took me around 20 minutes or so because I thoroughly thought on each one.
K.I.S.S. - Keep It Simple Stupid
Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without
1989 GMC 3500 4x4 diesel dump and plow truck, 1964 Oliver 1600 Industrial with Parsons loader and backhoe, 1986 Zetor 5211, Cat's Claw sharpener, single tooth setter, homemade Linn Lumber 1900 style mill, old tools

Ljohnsaw

Hmmm, I think the lesson learned here is stand anywhere near Kbietz!  ;)
John Sawicky

Just North-East of Sacramento...

SkyTrak 9038, Ford 545D FEL, Davis Little Monster backhoe, Case 16+4 Trencher, Home Built 42" capacity/36" cut Bandmill up to 54' long - using it all to build a timber frame cabin.

Peter Drouin

Wow, stay away from me. :D :D :D :D :D
A&P saw Mill LLC.
45' of Wood Mizer, cutting since 1987.
License NH softwood grader.

Percy

Quote from: Kbeitz on March 27, 2016, 12:36:55 PM
I dint want to post this because 90% of you wont beleve this...
But this is my life for real... Hand on the Bible it's the truth...

My life of 900 lives.


Fell off a high ladder in a tree

Battery blew up in my face.

Pop off valve blew up in my face.

Wax bullet blew up in my face.

# 40 roller chain broke and hit me in my right eye hard enough to take me of my feet.

Had a cement column fall behind my back. It landed two feet from me.

Rolled a tractor. Rolled a garden tractor.

Had a boat and trailer come off the hitch and run over me.

Lost control of a motorcycle and went through the wood with trees narrow than the handlebars.

Hit a Cliff with a motorcycle.

Almost broadsided a car with a motorcycle.

Came very close to hitting a deer and a raccoon with a motorcycle.

Had a very large tree crash down on a D9 dozer I was driving.

Had a spring loaded log spring up and bend the roll bar of the same D9 dozer right next to my head.

Had a welder blow up on me..

Had a burn barrow blow up on me. Had no idea what was in it.

All most stepped on a gator.

All most stepped on a cotton mouth.

Almost fell off a high rafter in a barn.

Accidentally made two sparks in a grain silo.

Had a trailer come off a road bank and the tongue landed on my shoe pushing my foot off to one side.

I needed a jack to get my shoe back. No mark on my foot.

When chainsawing I had a spring loaded tree come back and land on my foot. Saw was stuck in the tree.

I had to use another log tree to pry the tree off my foot... Lots of pain.

Walked away from a head on collision with my Jeep Wrangler. Both vehicles totaled.

Rolled a VW Dune buggy all the way over. I was thrown clear.

Drill a hole from out side a house into a 220V live range recital.

Drilled a hold through a live 220v circuit box and a place that built homes.

Had a large tractor tire blow up with my head between the fender and the tire..

Had a tractor start in the barn with me between the tire and the wall. No safety switch.

Had a large grind stone blow up into 3 chunks. One went through my home.

Had a 8" 4 jaw chuck come loose and off a metal lathe.

Had a drill press through a vise across the room.

Had an electric motor catch my shirt sleeve and the shaft went into my arm.

Had a 1" hand drill get away from me... Old one that was made that the switch stayed on.

Had metal stick in my eye.

Had metal in deep in my hand.

Cut a live 220v air conditioner wire off with a saws all.

I was in a boat that got out of control and dumped everyone out but me.

Almost put a dozer over a clift... Did put on on it's side.

Also has a large tree up end and the stump picked up the dozer and took me over a bank.

I was the last person to drive over the Milton bridge seconds before it fell in 1987.

I had a Briggs gas engine flywheel come apart while I was working on it on my work bench.

When I was a kid I climbed way up in a tree and the limb I was standing on broke. The one I was holding was smaller but helled me.

When in the Army we blew up a bridge and the beams cam crashing down on the APC I was in.

I was standing next to a jeep that ran over C3 and blew the front tire off.

I had a blasting cap blew up in my hand that was in a spring trap for a land mine, No injury.

Almost fell off a roof twice. One with snow and once the roof was just wet.

Had a girl hunter discharge her rifle when it was pointed at me. I have no idea how close the bullet was.

I got trapped in the center of a gas fire. I held my breath and closed my eyes and ran... No injury's.

Lost control of a 90hp farm tractor pulling a tantrum axle sprayer.

allmost lost my face trying to stop a runaway farm trailer when the back of the trailer dug into the dirt and the tongue flew up past my face.

Almost upset a highlift..

I got a forklift stuck between a moving train and a roof column.

Almost got blown off a 6 story roof when the wind wrapped a tarp around me. I was trying to take it down.

Almost got chopped in two when I stepped off an elevator that was loaded with a forklift that was to heavy for it.
Aye carrumba!!! And you are still with us. Hang in there buddy, and Im thinking you should buy a lottery ticket or two......wouldnt hurt......like alot of that listed stuff did :D :D
GOLDEN RULE : The guy with the gold, makes the rules.

Kbeitz

Each ones got it's own little story...
I think the reason that I've had so many exciting adventures is that I am a very very active guy.
I like hang gliding, zip lining, dirt cycle ridding, cannon shooting and so much more.
When you do so many things somethings gotta happen... I dont feel that I have bad luck or anything.
I'm very happy with my life. Would not trade it for anything. Would do it again.

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Peter Drouin

But what you're doing is throwing caution to the wind with the things you do.
Don't get me wrong, I wish you the best of luck with the things you do. You do have a lot of talent. With the things you make. ;)
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crowhill

I worked as a Human Resource Director for most of my career. Twenty years for one company and part of my responsibility was administering safety programs. Interesting observation was that most of those injured on the job requiring workers compensation forms to be filled out were repeaters. Some people are just accident prone due to being risk takers and usually it doesn't pay. When working at jobs of high danger potential slow down and think about safety, not just for you, but for co-workers and loved ones as we'll. Safety pays! Passing no judgement on anyone, please just be safe.
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47sawdust

I thought I might like to visit sometime,but after reading reply #35 I'm going to change my travel plans.I only have Medicare and one life. running-doggy running-doggy
Mick
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never finished

 Kbeitz, I do believe you would make a good segment on the ax men show. As far as rolling tractors go, your talking to some one that spent 28 years around mowing slopes. I could fill this page on roll overs I have witnessed. One rolling 3 times before landing on its wheels. One landing upside down in about 5 feet of water. What I cant tell you about any of them dying. As far as farmers around here goes. I can think of four that their families wish they had ROPS and seat belts and been smart enough to use them. I'm not saying I all ways wear them, but if the situation calls for it I do.  When something like what happened to you, happens to me. One thing that comes to my mind, is what would my loved ones think about the  stupid risk I took. While standing over my cold dead body. 

etroup10

Kbeitz, is the Milton bridge in Sunbury? I was just up there the other week to buy a truck. We don't live too far apart!
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Kbeitz

Quote from: etroup10 on March 27, 2016, 11:30:13 PM
Kbeitz, is the Milton bridge in Sunbury? I was just up there the other week to buy a truck. We don't live too far apart!
Na.. The Milton Bridge was in Milton..
I was working at Westchester Narrow fabrics and I needed an electrical part from Dauphin Electric
in Lewisburg. So I jumped on my motorcycle to go get it. As I was driving my cycle across the
bridge I felt a big bump. I left off the gas and looked back to see what I hit. I dint remember seeing
anything laying on the road. Another cycle behind me came to a stop. I almost stopped.But I could not
see nothing laying on the road. I could not make a u-turn on the bridge. So I just keep going.
After I got my electrical part and started back when i got to the bridge it was closed. I had to drive
another 10 miles out of my way to get to another bridge to get across the river. When I got back to
work all the employs ask me it I heard the news... I said no... They told me the Milton bridge fell.
So the bump I felt was the one edge of the bridge decking fell a few inches and the other corner
was still attached. I don't know how close it was to going all the way down when I got across.
I did not see or hear anything as I was driving. I guess the cycle behind me did see something or
he would no have stopped. I guess the reason I could not see anything was the angle I was looking
back from the cycle. The end that dropped would have been imposable to see from my angle.
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Love machine shop work
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And now a saw mill work

Kbeitz

I don't look at myself as a risk taker ...
It's just another adventurous day for me on the farm.
But when i worked foe Joe's Welding I did think everyday was risky working for him.
Thats the one place we was in the grain silos. But everyday was something exciting with him.
I felt I was to old to be working for him. Let the younger guy do the stuff he was doing.
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Love machine shop work
and Wood work shop work
And now a saw mill work

valley ranch

Glad it didn't get you, the Lord must think well of you.

Grandpa

Thanks for sharing that story Kbeitz.
You made me rethink some things I was thinking about and may have prevented a calamity.
Now I know to chain the three point down before going downhill.

Arkyrick

I was looking at those photos and thought that looks like West Virginia hills, then I read your location was in PA and remembered when we used to visit my Aunt in PA that there was a law that you had to curb the wheel of a car when you parked it. As you know there's good reason for that. :D You should take that old dozer and attach a drag blade to it and flatten out that mountain you live on  :) I once was bush hogging a road in Southern Ohio when suddenly my tractor wheel slipped over the side and started to roll over, I bailed out thinking it was going over the side. I landed so hard on my foot that I thought I broke my ankle, as I was watching my tractor going over the side it suddenly leveled out and continued going down the road by its self like nothing happened. It didn't stop until it hit a tree. :o
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Kbeitz

Quote from: Arkyrick on March 30, 2016, 07:31:04 PM
I was looking at those photos and thought that looks like West Virginia hills, then I read your location was in PA and remembered when we used to visit my Aunt in PA that there was a law that you had to curb the wheel of a car when you parked it. As you know there's good reason for that. :D You should take that old dozer and attach a drag blade to it and flatten out that mountain you live on  :) I once was bush hogging a road in Southern Ohio when suddenly my tractor wheel slipped over the side and started to roll over, I bailed out thinking it was going over the side. I landed so hard on my foot that I thought I broke my ankle, as I was watching my tractor going over the side it suddenly leveled out and continued going down the road by its self like nothing happened. It didn't stop until it hit a tree. :o

That would take a lot of Bull Dozen...



 
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crowhill

And I thought there were hills in Vermont!
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Kbeitz

This is just a few miles from me...



 
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