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Re: Stihl M-Tronic
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2017, 09:56:18 pm »
I too just bought a 461, my advice is to contact your dealer and see if your new 461 is one affected by the current fuel line recall. Unfortunately mine is, after only a half a tank of fuel it is leaking.

As far as m tronic goes I am all for it. My 661's are my favorite saws. And have had absolutely no complaints with them.

I had to wait until their new shipment came in from those recalls. I hoping they should be fine.
But I will post something when I get a chance to use it.

Your dealer must stay on top of things. Mine just found out Tuesday about the newest trouble. He is waiting for the stihl rep to make a visit to explain what needs replaced to correct the issue. He said it may be 2 weeks before an official recall is put out. So if my dealer info is correct it wouldn't hurt to stay in touch with your dealer.

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Re: Stihl M-Tronic
« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2017, 09:50:54 am »
We have been using a 362 cm for a year now in our tree service and except for one issue while working in 100 + temps the saw has been great.
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Re: Stihl M-Tronic
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2017, 10:29:54 am »

 I went to the dealer but the 261 he had did not have the M-Tronic. So he ordered me one. Should be here this week. Looking forward to my first new saw since I won the huskey at the FF picnic!  8)
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Re: Stihl M-Tronic
« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2017, 09:34:48 pm »
You might be surprised how many tree service guys never make any engine adjustment to a saw, ever.
And when they do they screw it up.  There have been many ,many saws screwed up by guys with little screw drivers that didn't know what they were doing

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« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2017, 09:37:49 pm »
You might be surprised how many tree service guys never make any engine adjustment to a saw, ever.
And when they do they screw it up or make it run worse usually.  There have been many ,many saws toasted  by guys with little screw drivers that didn't know what they were doing.

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Re: Stihl M-Tronic
« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2017, 12:48:54 am »
Dad bought a 261 M-tronic 2 months ago, loves it.

The ease of starting is a big plus for a 77 year old.

I've ran it, seems to have more power than my 026, but my saw has a lot of miles on it.

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Re: Stihl M-Tronic
« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2017, 10:00:15 am »
You might be surprised how many tree service guys never make any engine adjustment to a saw, ever.
And when they do they screw it up.  There have been many ,many saws screwed up by guys with little screw drivers that didn't know what they were doing
Yep most of these tree arbs are so focused on the latest handiest dandiest rope  friction hitch, brush chipper, boom truck.... that they totally neglect to fully understand their most important tool to get the job done in the first place.  :D

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Re: Stihl M-Tronic
« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2017, 02:00:19 pm »
M-tronic is based on the early Husky AT, and they pay royalties to Husky to use it.

Husky didn't want that to happen, but the EU forced them to, to "avoid a monopoly situation". The same is the case with some "strato" patents. As some may know, the EU effectively is attempting to move all production of "final products" to Germany, and Sweden was stupid enough to join the EU.
Norway never did, formally, but there are close relations anyway, so a lot of the crap that the EU comes up with applies here as well.

Rant over.
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Re: Stihl M-Tronic
« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2017, 09:57:03 pm »
New rant;

I may have forgot to say that I don't like the EU, and the multitude of agendas that system has - and the main culprit is of course Mrs Merkel, that want everything to be centralized into Germany, and is doing a too good job about it.
Also, the EU "parliament" are politicians that didn't succeed in their home country, but were "cast off" to the EU - and politicians are the lowest creeps on the earth. They are earning good money by just having opinions and "debating", not by doing anything useful.

Often they spent years at a university (collage) to study some meaningless subject, "debating" and drinking a lot of beer in the process - there are several hundred meaningless "subjects" that can get you a collage degree, more or less specially designed for such people, so they end up with a degree that sound fine, but is totally useless outside politics. The state and communities here don't understand (or simply ignore) that those degrees are meaningless, so the ones that doesn't succeed in politics can get a well paid job there, because of their meaningless "degree".

On top of that they often are arrogant, because they have a "degree" - never mind that it is totally useless in any context.
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Re: Stihl M-Tronic
« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2017, 02:09:04 am »
I'm very pleased with the M-tronic on my MS 661 and it doing something I can tell. When I go from have done some milling to doing some felling the saw seems "dull" it have optimized it self to run full throttle and using it's torque and not to get quick up to speed but after after a couple of minutes it have adjusted itself to the work I'm doing so something is going on :) 
The main reasons for me to buy the new 661 instead of the 660 was the lower fuel consumption but mostly lower vibrations in the handles.

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Re: Stihl M-Tronic
« Reply #30 on: January 14, 2017, 07:40:55 am »
New rant;

I may have forgot to say that I don't like the EU, and the multitude of agendas that system has - and the main culprit is of course Mrs Merkel, that want everything to be centralized into Germany, and is doing a too good job about it.
Also, the EU "parliament" are politicians that didn't succeed in their home country, but were "cast off" to the EU - and politicians are the lowest creeps on the earth. They are earning good money by just having opinions and "debating", not by doing anything useful.

Often they spent years at a university (collage) to study some meaningless subject, "debating" and drinking a lot of beer in the process - there are several hundred meaningless "subjects" that can get you a collage degree, more or less specially designed for such people, so they end up with a degree that sound fine, but is totally useless outside politics. The state and communities here don't understand (or simply ignore) that those degrees are meaningless, so the ones that doesn't succeed in politics can get a well paid job there, because of their meaningless "degree".

On top of that they often are arrogant, because they have a "degree" - never mind that it is totally useless in any context.
  sounds a lot like here

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Re: Stihl M-Tronic
« Reply #31 on: January 14, 2017, 01:39:05 pm »
New rant;

I may have forgot to say that I don't like the EU, and the multitude of agendas that system has - and the main culprit is of course Mrs Merkel, that want everything to be centralized into Germany, and is doing a too good job about it.
Also, the EU "parliament" are politicians that didn't succeed in their home country, but were "cast off" to the EU - and politicians are the lowest creeps on the earth. They are earning good money by just having opinions and "debating", not by doing anything useful.

Often they spent years at a university (collage) to study some meaningless subject, "debating" and drinking a lot of beer in the process - there are several hundred meaningless "subjects" that can get you a collage degree, more or less specially designed for such people, so they end up with a degree that sound fine, but is totally useless outside politics. The state and communities here don't understand (or simply ignore) that those degrees are meaningless, so the ones that doesn't succeed in politics can get a well paid job there, because of their meaningless "degree".

On top of that they often are arrogant, because they have a "degree" - never mind that it is totally useless in any context.

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Re: Stihl M-Tronic
« Reply #32 on: January 14, 2017, 08:07:06 pm »
I agree great post Niko :)
And like you said it all "goes back to Germany " like history had always proven that.
Seems logical enough Britain breaks away from the EU .......
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Re: Stihl M-Tronic
« Reply #33 on: January 16, 2017, 06:56:26 am »
 It's just a tiny bit off topic tho...
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« Reply #34 on: January 20, 2017, 06:33:11 am »
Hey I believe you will absolutely love the 461 I know I do..... being able to bury a 25" bar in any hardwood and not slownitbdown is prettty sweet.....

   I know it's been stated slot, but the saw will gain attitude after a break in time.....I know my 461 was quite a bit stronger after 10-15 tanks of fuel, than it was after only a tank or two...


   Let us know what you think of it...... oh and what size bar do you have on her!!!!

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Re: Stihl M-Tronic
« Reply #35 on: January 20, 2017, 10:35:49 pm »
Hey I believe you will absolutely love the 461 I know I do..... being able to bury a 25" bar in any hardwood and not slownitbdown is prettty sweet.....

   I know it's been stated slot, but the saw will gain attitude after a break in time.....I know my 461 was quite a bit stronger after 10-15 tanks of fuel, than it was after only a tank or two...


   Let us know what you think of it...... oh and what size bar do you have on her!!!!

I cannot wait to run it! I gotta 20" b/c
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Re: Stihl M-Tronic
« Reply #36 on: January 20, 2017, 11:04:13 pm »
I have two cars, the older one with a carburetor and the other with fuel injection controlled by an ECU.
The one with the carb is good to drive, stamp on the accelerator and off it goes. Go up a hill it takes it easily halfway and if I keep the accelerator pressed a bit of pinging comes on unless I change gears. If I go up into the mountains the engine runs rich unless I open up the carb and put in a leaner jet or adjust the fuel screw and/maybe the ignition timing.
If I happen to have fuel that is a bit 'off' the engine plays up and starts knocking. On the highway (not so frequently) I find that my setting of the carb and timing for my usual drive is not that great. Ditto in traffic.
In my newer ECU controlled car, all the variables are taken care of, the temperature, the altitude, the position of the accelerator, the gear selected,whether I am riding the clutch the quality of fuel, and much more.
It does have its negatives, but a whole lot of positives, depending on the situation.
The M-Tronic would be something like that ECU I think.

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Re: Stihl M-Tronic
« Reply #37 on: January 20, 2017, 11:27:12 pm »
Have MS461's throughout our fire department with no issues.

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Re: Stihl M-Tronic
« Reply #38 on: January 21, 2017, 11:59:35 pm »
I just thought I should mention this.
The MS461 does not have M-Tronic. It is a 3 pole coil that electronically advances the ignition timing and also limits the rpm to 13500.
It has an exhaust stratified system which saves fuel by a good 20% when compared to its 'older' brother the 046/460.
Though power specs are the same as the 460, the power and torque delivery are much better.

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« Reply #39 on: January 28, 2017, 11:18:05 am »
I also was shocked at how much torque the saw had.... I mean you can lean on the 25" bar in the hardwoods I cut here in Indiana, and she just eats right threw it....I know that the saw is a minor benefit to me and my small operation, so I am very happy....


    A buddy of mine that I buy part saws off of has a ported 372 husky waiting on me whenever I am ready to buy it....i can't wait to see what the husky saws are about, granted this one is ported, but it's a husky none the less.... everyone love the 372, so I am very anxious to try her out!!!!